i spoke to a girl recently and she said that sex on the first date is like on. i suppose people just differ in this regard.

what do u guys think? is it on or not?

This post has been edited by fredrik8009: May 26 2005, 11:33 AM

Sex outside mariage is wrong!

Oh no...here comes another huge debate! Basically, it is going to come down to religion again.

My personal belief is that sex out side of marriage is both wrong (on religious grounds) and, in general, a bad idea. I honestly believe that, religion aside, the most satisfying sexual relationship that can be had is within a long term, exclusive relationship - and that the level of satisfaction is relative to the level of security. And obviously, the risks of sex in marriage are much smaller than the risks of sex outside of marriage.

Artag

Here's a thought: she's a slag.

A strongly believe that a relationship should reach a certain level of maturity before sex is introduced. I'm not saying the sex would not be nice on the first date, but it is insane to go that route. The relationship will most probably end right there and then as at least one of the two would be satisfied and feel that they have accomplished their goal - time to move on now...

There is so much more to a relationship than sex. Just imagine what the sex would be like if you are just dying to have this woman, but you decide to wait for a while (preferably until married -although not always possible). For heavens sake you don’t even know where this person has been before, STD’s not too mention AIDS. Okay, you’ll probably say “I can like too use condom” – but how do you think some people get pregnant even with using condoms. There is ALWAYS a chance my man. Religion does have a lot to do with it as well.

It all comes down to one thought: Are you really prepared to live with the consequences of your actions? I myself just could not get past that question.

Pretty much sums it up!

Adieu

imo, if she's willing on the first date, imagine how many other guys she's been with

seriously not right

i think enigma has nailed it, but i would lengthen the time period to a month, if she's a bit too willing to jump into the sack i think i would run away, that type of shit just gives me the hebegebies

personally i dont think sex outside of marriage is wrong but be responsible about it, get tested, use a condom, use the pill too and most importantly ask yourself if she gets preggies would you marry her because she is pregnant or because you love her? if its the former then dont shag if its the latter then trust your conscience as to weather or not the two of you make love.

Shag

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I disagree with this "sex outside of marrage is wrong"
if you only getting married at 30 and u start dating at like 21, you telling me you going to sleep in the same bed, every night for say 8 years, and not shag?

If you answer YES to this questions, please relocate yourself to "www.IMAFUCKINGFAGOT.com/forums"

What is so wrong with a woman who enjoys nookie?
Give the woman what she wants damnit.

ok sex on the 1st date in my opinion wont do.

It will make me think she's a bit loose.

however after a few dates and ie leads to it, I can dig it

however I dont plan on getting married without tasting the goods.

who buys a car these days without a test drive???

Firstly, I don't believe in setting a time-limit on when it should be allowed. I think having sex outside marriage is fine if done responsibly, and if you meet you're soul mate on the first date, and you both feel comfortable having sex, then why not. ("Cos the Bible told me so" ain't gonna convince me guys)

And all this crap about a girl being a slag or loose if she wants to shag on a first date is getting really Victorian really fast. This is 2005. Women have just as active a sexual imagination and desire that men do. Don't punish them for actually have the guts to act on it.



This, while perhaps sounding a bit crass to some of you, is actually a very valid point. You have to have sex with this person for the rest of your life. If the sex is terrible, your relationship will suffer. Basically, if you compare it to something we can all understand, its like signing a life-time ADSL contract with Telkom with no guarantees on shaping or capping. I think its simply too important an aspect of a relationship to leave up to chance.

This post has been edited by StanDarsh: May 27 2005, 12:37 AM

it wasnt supposed to come across as crass.

However it explains my sentiments exactly.

You'll be surprised at how many women think the same way too.

HAHAHAHA Well said val

anyway the way I see it sex outside marriage is not SIN as they put it in those days... (won't go into the whole bible deal)

but sex on the first date = very loose slag = stay away or use about 30 condoms in a attempt avoid STD so rather use your hand or that blowup thingy lying in your bed at nite

sex after marriage = very big fore arms

Depends on the person and the situation. Usually I avoid the question/problem/issue and wait much further in the relationship? However I do not have time restraints if it’s right it will de done.

Knowing a person well/bette before you engage in teh sex, will not prevent you getting a STI. Will you honestly sleep with someone if you know they have some disease? No!

Sex before and after marriage is still a risk. You never know where the other person have been, or if they are clean or not. Face it.

That doesn't work for me, man. I know this is only for argument's sake, but you can't compare a car to a woman! The one is a simple, material and mostly inanimate object, while the other is supposed to make up the other half of your *life*.
That aside, i believe sex is a skill just like any other. And it can be honed just like any other, too. If you jump into bed a virtual sex god then you either studied your collection of porn way too intently, or you were just plain lucky. Don't tell me that you would honestly give up what could be the love of your life just because she didn't please you enough, like all the others did...


Maybe it's just me, but normally you wouln't start playing house with a girfriend the moment you hook up (assuming you even have the kind of money it takes to do that).
::shrug::
But then again, this is 2005, hey. That simple fact justifies every glaring example of moral decay in modern society.


That's also a valid point. And the way i see it, there seems to be two sides to this:
1.) Build the relationship on trust, and then actually *trust* your partner to tell you the truth about this matter.
or
2.) Both people need to go for check-ups before the marriage/sex/whatever (and risk scaring the other person off because you 'betray' their trust)

Oh, but then again, if people didn't fuck around like little white rabbits, then we wouldn't really be faced with this issue.

Why the hell not?

What's wrong with a little recriational sex now and then? Be it after 4 dates, one date or no dates? As long as everyone involved is adequately protected and concenting adults.

Everyone seems to have this religiously motivated sex = evil philosophy going on. Can anyone give a good reason why sex should be any different from say watching a movie or playing a nice game of putt-putt?

i think u've been watching too much porn.

LMFAO

I was thinking the same thing jow.

So a game of putt putt ?

or put put ?