Kids who "misbehave" or frequently find themselves in trouble in school are usually suffering from an undiagnosed disability, or a difficult or less than encouraging home situatioon. These kids are forced into the school to prison pipeline via expulsion, suspensions and "0" tolerance policies. Read All About It.

I am reading a story that kinda falls inline with this. This kid is deemed an out sider and "rebels" later he gets his life together only later to be faced with a choice that could take him back down the path of destruction. Its called The Tenth Circle. and this kid was definitely on the pipeline.

These kids should harden the fuck up. No-one is forcing them anywhere. They may have it harder than others, but their actions are still their own.

Indeed so Carrots, however i believe many kids with single parents (for instance) don't have a good role model and just do what they want to, not really putting much thought into their actions.

Indeed the kids have little or no guidance and when they get to school which shouuld aim to teach them something or at least help them to aspire. They are greeted with un reasonable policies that teach them to be punished but not to learn or be better people. I haven't read the 10th circle so i can't say if it relates but it seems that it may. But I know there is going to be a movie about it this saturday the 28th on lifetime around 9.

Uhm...... which country do you live in?

There is no such thing a punishment in school anymore in SA

Yes, there is. In school and out of school suspension, expulsion, detention, dissmissal from class. All of theres are punishements very much still in effect. Coporal punishment (hitting) is banned in the states but other punishment is not. I think the story of the tenth circle relates very closely it's going to be on lifetime this saturday

^ Yes there is still punishment in public school USA don't be ridiculous it isn't corporal but it is punishment.

I happen to see the Tenth Circle and it deals with different issues which may be relevant here but not directly. Issues like being honest with others and honest with your self.. Did any one else see it, do you get my meaning?

Ha, BS!!!!!!!!!! I freaking agree with carrots WTH? punishment is part of learning, if you do something wrong and it goes unpunished, what stops you from doing it again?

Punishment from an early age teaches you that what you do has a consequence. This is the first principle that anyone needs to have discipline... Without this you can teach your good samaritan heart out you will achieve sweet nothing...

It is a small fraction of kids who follow the path this topic refers to and lets be honest they know exactly what they're doing and the consequences thereof. The fact that you are punished at school does not obscure your reasoning between what is right and wrong.

Punishment teaches accountability bottom line.