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Road hogs, drunk drivers and other traffic offenders will run the risk of having their licences endorsed or even confiscated in a matter of months.

After years of talking about a demerit system, traffic authorities are now poised to start the crackdown which will see South African drivers, like their counterparts in many other countries, running the risk of losing their driving licences should they not keep to the straight and narrow.

First in line to feel the bite are motorists on some of the busiest roads - in Pretoria and Johannesburg. A pilot demerit project is expected to begin there in June.

But authorities in KwaZulu-Natal, who were left reeling by reckless holiday traffic, are champing at the bit to join and have called for a demerit system in their province by May.

The rest of the country could follow suit before the end of this year.

Road Traffic Management Corporation (RTMC) chief executive officer Ranthoko Rakgoale said this week that the Administrative Adjudication of Road Traffic Offences (AARTO) pilot project in Gauteng was to begin by June or even earlier.

Rakgoale said an official announcement would be made by Transport Minister Jeff Radebe.

The system will see offenders not only paying fines but running the risk of losing points from a starting total of 12 on their licences. This penalty approach was first mooted in 1998.

The Transport Department's senior executive manager for traffic law enforcement, Thabo Tsholetsane, said the process had taken so long because a "paradigm shift" on how things were done had been needed.

He said it was important to be able to implement the legislation - which is essentially a complete overhaul of the current penalty system - without flouting the Bill of Rights.

Outlining the system, Rakgoale said that for "principle purposes" each driver would be issued with 12 driving points. Each penalty - for instance driving while drunk - would come with a certain penalty point deduction.

"For instance, driving under the influence of liquor might be six points. So as soon as you are arrested and you are found guilty then it's 12 minus six and you are left with six. Driving with a defective vehicle might cost you one point," he said.

"Now if you accumulate all points up to the maximum of 12 then obviously your driver's licence will have to be suspended."

Drivers would be able to earn back points to get themselves out of the danger zone. Penalties could be erased if the offending driver did not incur more demerits within three-month intervals.

"For every three months you don't misbehave, one penalty point is erased. So it would take you 18 months to clear the six-point penalty incurred for drunk driving," he said.


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I like this, but would like to see it enforced on goons on the highways, who are REALLY a problem.

The following people should be heavily penalised:
1. People who don't indicate when changing lanes (almost saw an M5 go into a Mazda 323 this morning, because the goon in the 323 just decided to change lanes without indicating, and from the looks of it, even checking his blind-spot).
2. Motor cyclists who swerve around on the highway, in between cars (I almost took one out of the game the other day).
3. People who drive drunk, WITH kids in the car.
4. Taxi drivers who overload the taxis, AND speed on the highways.
5. Bus drivers who go 120 km/h+ on the highways, when they have big markers on the bus which show that 100 km/h is the maximum speed that they should be going.

And if I ruled the world, people who move into your lane, knowing full well that they are going much slower, thus causing you to slow down behind them from a decent speed that you were traveling.
Nitro Guy
Guess i'm gonna have to find a lighter foot somewhere sad.gif
hunter
2. Motor cyclists who swerve around on the highway, in between cars (I almost took one out of the game the other day).

Lane splitting (if done safely) is actually legal and helps with traffic congestion. I hear you though, some people should not be on a bike, never mind on a highway splitting lanes
cyfermaster
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3. People who drive drunk, WITH kids in the car.


erm, wtf should "WITH kids in the car" have to do with it. It should be people who drive drunk, even if they are alone in the car, or while drinking an alcoholic beverage and driving.
RustPuppet
Having kids or other passengers in the car endangers other people that did not choose to drink.
russell
Simply getting into a car alone while drunk endangers non drinkers. Over half the accidents I attended that involved a drunk driver had a sober driver in the other car
cyfermaster
Well put RevQ. I was going to say something very similar too that.
Surge
Yes, drunken driving is a no-no, but the point was that people who drive drunk, with their kids in the car should face harsher penalties.

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Lane splitting (if done safely) is actually legal and helps with traffic congestion.

Yeah, just that these days one tends to see more and more people behaving more like Evil Knievel on the highways. sad.gif
cyfermaster
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with their kids in the car should face harsher penalties.


I still disagree. Punishment for driving drunk, or while drinking should be harsh enough that a person will go "Wait, I am drunk. I won't drive!" instead of "Wait, I am drunk, I will drive around but my kids can stay here. It's okay if I crash into another car with a family in it and kill them."
Nitro Guy
Hey i recall cyfer posted something about this a while back but couldn't find that thread anywho....

See the linky's

Linky IOL
Linky Homecoming revolutions

You know what, i think this may actually work for the private speedsters but no on the main culprits Taxi's, etc

Notice that there's still no fine/penaly for carrying people in a bakkie/truck Bin..... i was horrified to see a Lorry with easily 25 workers in the bin!!!!!!!!! returning from a construction site!!!!! crazy.gif
Fishfly
ya well the rate our goverment works... I seriously doubt this will be implemented AT ALL!

such inconsistency and incompentance... even if you make good suggestions these people aren't goign to follow!

btw

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Nitro Guy
couldn't find the original thread at first, i found it like literally seconds after i posted this apologies guys...
Fishfly
nah not a problem... still I haven't heard a word regarding this... doubt it'll ever see the light of day... maybe unless they decided they need another way of milking the money of the p00r people sad.gif
Surge
QUOTE(Nitro Guy @ May 5 2008, 11:22 AM) *
couldn't find the original thread at first, i found it like literally seconds after i posted this apologies guys...

It's all good. *merged*
angelin
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