Australia, and Lewis is on pole though. Great stuff!
Good to also see the BMWs up there.
Here's to a great race tomorrow!
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I had a whole write-up planned to kick off this thread, but sadly, time has not been on my side lately.
Australia, and Lewis is on pole though. Great stuff!
Good to also see the BMWs up there.
Here's to a great race tomorrow!
Australia, and Lewis is on pole though. Great stuff!
Good to also see the BMWs up there.
Here's to a great race tomorrow!
Good stuff from Lewis.
Pity there wasn't a one/two from McLaren.
Ferrari... I guess the less said, the better?
Pity there wasn't a one/two from McLaren.
Ferrari... I guess the less said, the better?
Nice to see some farming again in F1
LOL. quite an entertaining race, but not from a good racing point of view. More from a bad racing point of view. Kimi = TOOL. LOL. Kovalinen = Unlucky. Massa = Half Tool.
Side Note... where did McLaren get that cool idea to put that nifty cover thing on the wheel???
Side Note... where did McLaren get that cool idea to put that nifty cover thing on the wheel???
all smiles from me for my bmw boys... yeah i know kubica didnt finish (must still send death threat etc to nakajima LOL) but he did get his best qualy results to date... nicky on the podium... happy happy happy .. heiki pressing the wrong button: well at least one mclaren admits to doing that... unlike a certain someone else who switched off his car by mistake! lol..... best highlight of yesterday: DC threatening to kick lumps of shit out of Massa if he doesnt accept responsibility for the crash involving the two... hehe...
Ahhhh.... Very stupid of the boys from McLaren to get that penalty on the grid. Very stupid.
Anyways, as fan of F1, I am pleased with the way the season looks thus far. BMW right up there in the Constructor's race so far, and Kimi and Lewis slagging it out for the Driver's.
Looks like another entertaining season is upon us, just like last season.
Anyways, as fan of F1, I am pleased with the way the season looks thus far. BMW right up there in the Constructor's race so far, and Kimi and Lewis slagging it out for the Driver's.
Looks like another entertaining season is upon us, just like last season.
http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2008/3/7553.html
hmmm what was so bad that massa spun? It's been a long time since I've been following f1... sigh
hmmm what was so bad that massa spun? It's been a long time since I've been following f1... sigh
Well, congrats to Robert Kubica on his first pole! Looking forward to seeing how today's race pans out.
Nice to see a Ferrari one-two after such a long time! Surprisingly the Ferrari's did not dominate this race as the BMW's of Heidfeld and Kubica simply did not allow them to pull away into the sunset.
Well done to BMW for making this a 6 horse race! I hope they can continue in this vein of form.
Highlight of the race for me: Hamilton damaging his front wing after driving into the ear tyres of that Spanish prick Alonso!
Well done to BMW for making this a 6 horse race! I hope they can continue in this vein of form.
Highlight of the race for me: Hamilton damaging his front wing after driving into the ear tyres of that Spanish prick Alonso!
Brilliant race
I loved to see the 1-2 and also to see how far BMW has come along
And this time i watched it on TV. Screw the track
I loved to see the 1-2 and also to see how far BMW has come along
And this time i watched it on TV. Screw the track
Is it really that crappy to watch it at the track, Nukes? I would think that having a seat at the grand stand would give you more of a chance to see the cars zoom by.
Right, about the race, as an F1 fan, this is turning out great, with both the driver's and constructor's races being contested by three teams.
Ja, as a McLaren fan, heart sore. But Ron Dennis said that the true potential of the car will only be seen after Bahrain, so I shall wait and see. They did get slaughtered this weekend though.
Right, about the race, as an F1 fan, this is turning out great, with both the driver's and constructor's races being contested by three teams.
Ja, as a McLaren fan, heart sore. But Ron Dennis said that the true potential of the car will only be seen after Bahrain, so I shall wait and see. They did get slaughtered this weekend though.
Endless Blurs and monotonous sound ftw!!!!!
Its baking at this time of year in Bahrain as well 50oC+
Just makes the track not worth it unless you get one of those swanky lounge passes
Its baking at this time of year in Bahrain as well 50oC+
Just makes the track not worth it unless you get one of those swanky lounge passes
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Ja, as a McLaren fan, heart sore. But Ron Dennis said that the true potential of the car will only be seen after Bahrain, so I shall wait and see. They did get slaughtered this weekend though.
Hmm.... not looking much better for you just yet. Eish for Heiki. At least he is OKAY.
True about it not being any better... sorta. Had there not been safety car periods, it would have been another trip to the slaughterhouse for McLaren in terms of the Ferraris dashing off into the distance...
Why do I support the teams that give their fans so much stress? Between McLaren and Man Utd, I should have my first heart attack by the age of 30.
Why do I support the teams that give their fans so much stress? Between McLaren and Man Utd, I should have my first heart attack by the age of 30.
Well, the 3 stopper worked pretty well for McLaren yesterday. And the title race is still looking hot. Pity about Kovalainen getting the early puncture, and wtf was up with the extra stop by McLaren. Could it have been avoided?
I think they did the extra stop on purpose to make sure they had backup for if Kimi was trying to overtake Lewis. Kovalinen would've then slowed down and then slowed Kimi down when they tried to lap him. If they had tried to do a 2 stopped like most of the other teams, then they would've been nowhere. They can't handle the soft compound tire. At least not at that track. In the end it proved to be a good tactic for them, but not a winning one. Wonder what the race would've been like if the ferraris did 2 stints on the harder compound? All in all I think it was a pretty boring race.
Imagine how dominant Kimi would've been if his front wing wasn't damaged...
Title race is looking good yeah. Specially since the next 2 tracks are meant to be McLaren tracks... Going to be interesting.
Imagine how dominant Kimi would've been if his front wing wasn't damaged...
Title race is looking good yeah. Specially since the next 2 tracks are meant to be McLaren tracks... Going to be interesting.
Well, when Lewis made that mistake and went into the barrier, I was kinda down, but hey, it paid off in the end.
Hard luck for Force India on not getting some points out of that race. A cruel case of being so close, yet so far...
So, with Kimi getting no points, we see Lewis move to the top of the ladder, with Kimi moving down to second, and Massa to third. Doesn't look very likely that a fourth horse is gonna be in this race, but who knows... It would be great of Kubica could join in the race.
Hard luck for Force India on not getting some points out of that race. A cruel case of being so close, yet so far...
So, with Kimi getting no points, we see Lewis move to the top of the ladder, with Kimi moving down to second, and Massa to third. Doesn't look very likely that a fourth horse is gonna be in this race, but who knows... It would be great of Kubica could join in the race.
Never have I seen such a mistake turn in to the best case of luck ever. pish. Good tactical move by McLaren in the end and that should be applauded. Kimi = TOOL for this race, as is his team for not getting his wheels on before the 3 minutes... WHAT A BASIC mistake. Silly people. Could it end up costing them the championship?
I feel so sorry for Force India as well.
Good tactical move by McLaren in the end and that should be applauded. Kimi = TOOL for this race, as is his team for not getting his wheels on before the 3 minutes... WHAT A BASIC mistake. Silly people. Could it end up costing them the championship?I feel so sorry for Force India as well.
Man, Sutil got robbed
*sigh* Lewis, Lewis, Lewis. What WERE you thinking with that pit stop? And now you are getting a 10 place drop for the grid at the next race.
That said though, congrats to Robert Kubica on his, and BMWs first win, AND first one/two! If there is a driver I would rather see win a race apart from Hamilton, it would be Kubica. Nick wasn't all too happy, but hey, Robert imo is the better driver right now, and deserved to lead the team to their historic win.
Who would have though that Kubica would be leading the championship? Damn I love this sport. As Murray walker used to say, "F1 is IF spelled backwards."
The season has just become a WHOLE lot more interesting.
That said though, congrats to Robert Kubica on his, and BMWs first win, AND first one/two! If there is a driver I would rather see win a race apart from Hamilton, it would be Kubica. Nick wasn't all too happy, but hey, Robert imo is the better driver right now, and deserved to lead the team to their historic win.
Who would have though that Kubica would be leading the championship? Damn I love this sport. As Murray walker used to say, "F1 is IF spelled backwards."
The season has just become a WHOLE lot more interesting.
Lewis is a chop. What a n00b thing to do. actually a n00b wouldn't even do that. Gosh, what a moron.
Yes, well done to Robert. He is definately someone to be looked at, and not taken lightly. He is having a great year. Good to see BMW doing well.
What did Lewis say... "I'm sorry if I ruined Kimi's race..." WTF dude. no IF about it. YOU DID ruin it. oh well. the joys of motor racing.
Yes, well done to Robert.
He is definately someone to be looked at, and not taken lightly. He is having a great year. Good to see BMW doing well. What did Lewis say... "I'm sorry if I ruined Kimi's race..." WTF dude. no IF about it. YOU DID ruin it. oh well. the joys of motor racing.
Monaco it was Ferrari that ruined someones race. I guess karma is a bitch hey.
And i also hope that Kubica don't turn into a snotnosed little girl like Alonso did. He should stay the way he is, he will go very far in F1.
And i also hope that Kubica don't turn into a snotnosed little girl like Alonso did. He should stay the way he is, he will go very far in F1.
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Monaco it was Ferrari that ruined someones race. I guess karma is a bitch hey.
That was a racing incident. Kimi lost control of the car under breaking at high speed. Lewis was in the pit lane.... and his pit is right at the end... He is still a chop.
Strange how everybody is bashing Hamilton but when Skidmaker took out Hill and tried to take out Villeneuve that was just racing 
Mistakes happen ppl, get over it.
Mistakes happen ppl, get over it.
What skidmaker did wasn't exactly sporting... But I mean. I could've stopped my car in time so as not to hit kimi. oh well.
Not necessarily, cyfer.
It was a mistake by Lewis. A bad one, since it has now prejudiced him for the next race, apart from spoiling the race for others. What needs to be noted here is that he was looking at the cars in front of him, when he was in the pits, i.e. Kimi and Robert. When he saw them moving off, and he was still standing still, he decided to focus on THEM, and not ALSO on the lights at the end of the pit lane.
I think that the team is also to blame here, if they did not inform him that the pit was not open (which is very likely the case here, but I have not read up on the full race commentary), which would have had him being more cautious, AND focus on the pit lane lights, instead of his main rivals in front of him.
I would LOVE to hear the radio talk that occurred when the three front runners were in the pits.
It was a mistake by Lewis. A bad one, since it has now prejudiced him for the next race, apart from spoiling the race for others. What needs to be noted here is that he was looking at the cars in front of him, when he was in the pits, i.e. Kimi and Robert. When he saw them moving off, and he was still standing still, he decided to focus on THEM, and not ALSO on the lights at the end of the pit lane.
I think that the team is also to blame here, if they did not inform him that the pit was not open (which is very likely the case here, but I have not read up on the full race commentary), which would have had him being more cautious, AND focus on the pit lane lights, instead of his main rivals in front of him.
I would LOVE to hear the radio talk that occurred when the three front runners were in the pits.
Surely if he was watching the cars in front of him... he would've stopped in time?
Yes it was a mistake, his team might be to blame as much, if not more than him. That said though... If it is a safety car period surely the driver knows that he should keep an eye on the lights as well? You can't always rely on your team to tell you everything? Lewis. Watch the car in front of you it might stop cause the lights might go red.... Oh yeah, you might want to pick your nose while you drive down the pitlane too."
Yeah me too.
Kimi: "Fuck, what was that."
Lewis: "Oh fuck, ooops. *snigger* at least Kimi won't get more points than me"
Other dude: "woohoo"
Guy who drove into Lewis: "Oh fuck, I am a tool."
Lewis: "At least I'm not the only one."
Yes it was a mistake, his team might be to blame as much, if not more than him. That said though... If it is a safety car period surely the driver knows that he should keep an eye on the lights as well? You can't always rely on your team to tell you everything? Lewis. Watch the car in front of you it might stop cause the lights might go red.... Oh yeah, you might want to pick your nose while you drive down the pitlane too."
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I would LOVE to hear the radio talk that occurred when the three front runners were in the pits.
Yeah me too.
Kimi: "Fuck, what was that."
Lewis: "Oh fuck, ooops. *snigger* at least Kimi won't get more points than me"
Other dude: "woohoo"
Guy who drove into Lewis: "Oh fuck, I am a tool."
Lewis: "At least I'm not the only one."
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Surely if he was watching the cars in front of him... he would've stopped in time?
Well, check, when you are leading the race rather comfortably, and then an SC period comes and spoils that lead, and you have all this adrenaline pumping, and thoughts all over the place, it ain't that easy to remain focused. Don't get me wrong, I feel that Lewis did make a mess of things, but obviously he did NOT WANT to score no points for the race. QUOTE
Kimi: "Fuck, what was that."
Lewis: "Oh fuck, ooops. *snigger* at least Kimi won't get more points than me"
Other dude: "woohoo"
Guy who drove into Lewis: "Oh fuck, I am a tool."
Lewis: "At least I'm not the only one."
Lewis: "Oh fuck, ooops. *snigger* at least Kimi won't get more points than me"
Other dude: "woohoo"
Guy who drove into Lewis: "Oh fuck, I am a tool."
Lewis: "At least I'm not the only one."
LOL. I was referring more to the convo from the pit folk to the drivers, but that made my afternoon nonetheless.
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but obviously he did NOT WANT to score no points for the race.
For sure. And he has been penalised at the next race. Can't really ask for more.QUOTE
it ain't that easy to remain focused.
um... okay. Maybe he was thinking about the fat bonus check he was going to get for winning cause he is one of the best drivers in the world...
cyfer, you sound like a disgruntled skidmaker fan
Would you be calling kimi a tool and everything else under the sun if the roles were reversed?
Would you be calling kimi a tool and everything else under the sun if the roles were reversed?
he probably would
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Would you be calling kimi a tool and everything else under the sun if the roles were reversed?
Yes I would.
I dunno who the other dude is who drove into the back of Hamilton, and he is a tool too. I reckon that is what ruined Hamilton's race. If he didn't drive into the back of Hamilton, Hamilton may have been able to change his nose cone and then continue and perhaps get some points.
FYI. I don't really support a person in the sport. I just don't support certain drivers. Alonso being one of them. I am a motoGP fan.
so the next GP is this weekend. Will Mr Kubica be able to handle the pressure of leading the championship?
Was doing some reading and apparently Hamilton says he is feeling the pressure, but he is enjoying it.
Was doing some reading and apparently Hamilton says he is feeling the pressure, but he is enjoying it.
The good thing about Kubica leading is that BMW is gonna put up a good fight for the race. The track is more suited for the Ferraris though, and you can bet that they are gonna play really hard here, especially with Lewis getting the penalty.
It should be an interesting race, unless if Ferrari get the front grid, which would most likely see them scamper off into the distance.
Turning out to be quite the interesting season.
It should be an interesting race, unless if Ferrari get the front grid, which would most likely see them scamper off into the distance.
Turning out to be quite the interesting season.
Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... I missed the first 30 minutes of the race due to a power failure, so I cannot really comment on Lewis's penalty, but from what the commentary team said, it seems pretty daft that he would take a place by jumping the chicane and not giving it back.
I think that he needs to just take a chill pill, and not let the media reports bring him down too much if he wants to have any chance of winning the title this year. 10 points behind in the driver's is not TOO far off, so just keep it together, Lewis.
That said, BMW were like nowhere this time around. Eish.
I think that he needs to just take a chill pill, and not let the media reports bring him down too much if he wants to have any chance of winning the title this year. 10 points behind in the driver's is not TOO far off, so just keep it together, Lewis.
That said, BMW were like nowhere this time around. Eish.
I didn't manage to watch the race. Heard that Kimi had exhaust problems of some sort, but still managed to come in 2nd. Massa got the win, and BIG UPS to Trulli. Good result for Toyota.
You are so right about 10 points though. Where was Massa after 2 or 3 races this year? Things can change very quickly.
Heard that Kimi had exhaust problems of some sort, but still managed to come in 2nd. Massa got the win, and BIG UPS to Trulli. Good result for Toyota.You are so right about 10 points though. Where was Massa after 2 or 3 races this year? Things can change very quickly.
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You are so right about 10 points though. Where was Massa after 2 or 3 races this year? Things can change very quickly.
And then there were 3 at the top. It looked more like Massa was taking his car out for a waltz, than race. Pity McLaren couldn't get the one-two, but hey, at least they got the win.
Well done to Honda for their first podium in ages. Not a "victory" to say that the car is great, but it did remind us of the genius known as Ross Braun.
And yeah, good on Kovi for getting his first F1 pole as well.
This season just keeps getting hotter, and hotter.
Agreement:
* Lewis showed why he deserves his spot in F1
* Massa looked like a chop/n00b, and basically showed the world that it is more car than driver that had him leading the drivers championship
* Rubens/Brawn - i am happy for them, at one stage they were lapping 4+ seconds ahead of everyone, clearly showing Ferrari how bad their mistake with Kimi was, he deserved better than what he got
* Good on Beemer, their car appears to be getting better, which i am glad for since McLaren/Ferrari were starting to feel a little bit isolated at the top, now they have BMW to fear
All in all, a shit race to watch, but excellent drive from Nick & Lewis
* Lewis showed why he deserves his spot in F1
* Massa looked like a chop/n00b, and basically showed the world that it is more car than driver that had him leading the drivers championship
* Rubens/Brawn - i am happy for them, at one stage they were lapping 4+ seconds ahead of everyone, clearly showing Ferrari how bad their mistake with Kimi was, he deserved better than what he got
* Good on Beemer, their car appears to be getting better, which i am glad for since McLaren/Ferrari were starting to feel a little bit isolated at the top, now they have BMW to fear
All in all, a shit race to watch, but excellent drive from Nick & Lewis
Didn't see the race. Heard that Lewis drove well, and that Kimi was right with him until a stupid call in a pit stop? Nice that there are 3 at the top and another JUST behind. Could turn out to be a good season.
They looked kinda crap in the dry, so not sure if they are coming back at the other two. We shall see at the next race.
Heard that Lewis drove well, and that Kimi was right with him until a stupid call in a pit stop? Nice that there are 3 at the top and another JUST behind. Could turn out to be a good season.QUOTE
Good on Beemer, their car appears to be getting better, which i am glad for since McLaren/Ferrari were starting to feel a little bit isolated at the top, now they have BMW to fear
They looked kinda crap in the dry, so not sure if they are coming back at the other two. We shall see at the next race.
Yeah, when McLaren didn't bring Lewis into the pits after the safety car, I also thought that they had screwed up his race. Thankfully, it paid off.
Well done to Piquet Jr on his his podium. Poor bastard's been under a lotta pressure, and while it is more of a lucky podium than anything else, hey, they all count at the end of the day, hey?
Well done to Piquet Jr on his his podium. Poor bastard's been under a lotta pressure, and while it is more of a lucky podium than anything else, hey, they all count at the end of the day, hey?
Bad luck for both the championship leaders. Massa was really driving a classic race drive for himself there, but I guess the Ferrari engine is not as legendary now for its reliability as it used to be.
Good for Kovi getting his first victory as well. :B
I think that Kimi's smiles after the race were more for the fact that Massa scored no points, instead of his fellow countryman getting a race victory.
Good for Kovi getting his first victory as well. :B
I think that Kimi's smiles after the race were more for the fact that Massa scored no points, instead of his fellow countryman getting a race victory.
Well, yesterday's race COULD have gone down as one of those with an epic finish, buuuuuuuut then (presumably?) Ferrari had to step in like the whiny little punks they are...
Lewis Hamilton's hopes of winning his first Formula One world title have suffered a blow after he was demoted to third place in the Belgian Grand Prix
I think that this is absolute bullshit! Hamilton let Kimi go right passed him on this, so why the big need for punishment on this? how many races have you not seen where this kind of thing has happened, and NO punishment was dealt out? F1 really is becoming a joke these days.
Lewis Hamilton's hopes of winning his first Formula One world title have suffered a blow after he was demoted to third place in the Belgian Grand Prix
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Hamilton crossed the line first at Spa but was stripped of victory after stewards imposed a 25-second penalty on the McLaren driver.
The reclassified result strips the British driver's lead at the top of the world championship down to only two points with five races of the season remaining.
McLaren have confirmed they will appeal the decision.
Hamilton had been six points clear going into the Belgian race, which was to prove one of the most dramatic of the season.
He triumphed after a tumultuous cat-and-mouse chase to the line between him and Finnish driver Kimi Raikkonen, in which the Ferrari briefly span off the track on lap 42 of the 44-lap race.
The stewards' inquiry examined the incident which saw the pair collide after Hamilton made a move on entry into the circuit's Bus Stop chicane.
McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton
Stewards probed an incident on lap 42 between Hamilton and Raikkonen
That pushed the Briton on to the run-off area and he resumed in the lead.
He then let Raikkonen through, fearing an instant penalty from the race stewards.
However, on reviewing footage of the race they decided to punish Hamilton anyway.
Raikkonen later crashed out as the wet weather took its toll.
The effect of the stewards' decision meant victory was awarded to Ferrari's Felipe Massa, with Nick Heidfeld (BMW) promoted to second place and Hamilton falling to third.
The reclassified result strips the British driver's lead at the top of the world championship down to only two points with five races of the season remaining.
McLaren have confirmed they will appeal the decision.
Hamilton had been six points clear going into the Belgian race, which was to prove one of the most dramatic of the season.
He triumphed after a tumultuous cat-and-mouse chase to the line between him and Finnish driver Kimi Raikkonen, in which the Ferrari briefly span off the track on lap 42 of the 44-lap race.
The stewards' inquiry examined the incident which saw the pair collide after Hamilton made a move on entry into the circuit's Bus Stop chicane.
McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton
Stewards probed an incident on lap 42 between Hamilton and Raikkonen
That pushed the Briton on to the run-off area and he resumed in the lead.
He then let Raikkonen through, fearing an instant penalty from the race stewards.
However, on reviewing footage of the race they decided to punish Hamilton anyway.
Raikkonen later crashed out as the wet weather took its toll.
The effect of the stewards' decision meant victory was awarded to Ferrari's Felipe Massa, with Nick Heidfeld (BMW) promoted to second place and Hamilton falling to third.
I think that this is absolute bullshit! Hamilton let Kimi go right passed him on this, so why the big need for punishment on this? how many races have you not seen where this kind of thing has happened, and NO punishment was dealt out? F1 really is becoming a joke these days.
hehehehe shame
but he did stuff Raikkonen's chance of winning the race...
but he did stuff Raikkonen's chance of winning the race...
hehehehe shame
but he did stuff Raikkonen's chance of winning the race...
but he did stuff Raikkonen's chance of winning the race...
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I think that this is absolute bullshit! Hamilton let Kimi go right passed him on this
It's not about letting the person past, it's about not gaining an advantage. Hamilton basically admitted he gained an advantage. He said I let Kimi passed, but got straight into his draft or something like that.I do agree that it's a crap call though.
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Ferrari had to step in like the whiny little punks they are...
Do you know it was them? I know you said presumably... but just wondering if you know for sure?
Actually, Kimi stuffed up his own race. It's not Lewis's fault that Kimi couldn't handle the wet weather as well as he did.
actually from news reports it seems as hamilton was peanlised for driving over a chicane....
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So it wasn't just because of the clash
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Hamilton was penalised after stewards decided he had gained an advantage by cutting the final chicane in his late-race battle with Ferrari’s Kimi Raikkonen. Raikkonen crashed out shortly after the incident, having the led the bulk of the race up to that point.
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So it wasn't just because of the clash
It was always because of the chicane incident.
Well done to Sebastian Vettel on an historic maiden GP win! Well deserved indeed.
Well, only 1 point between Massa and Hamilton now, and 4 races to go. This is getting tighter and tighter. Damn I love this sport!
Well, only 1 point between Massa and Hamilton now, and 4 races to go. This is getting tighter and tighter. Damn I love this sport!
Well, this weekend sees the first ever night race in F1 history. Gotta say that I am pretty keen on this, as are most people. And the good news is that it will mean that even though the race is on the other side of the world, one does not have to wake up early for this, as when last i checked, we will get to watch it at the traditional 14:00 local time.
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