LOL the GTI looks like a toy i think this belongs in the monkey barrel rather....

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this is silly - why would you expect any different - you may as well compare a horse and cart to a lambo with the amount of sense that this comparison makes

lets put it into perspective

in south africa alone around 500 golf 5 gti's are sold per month - how many lambo LP640's ???? (maybe i'll hazard a guess and and say 0 - maybe even if there are 10 in total in the country we would be privileged

the lambo costs you close to 5 bar rands - the golf around R300k with every extra - if at a cost of 15 times more it isnt twice as fast at least it would be a total waste - and it just about is only twice as fast and twice as good looking - does that justify spending 15 times more

can you and i afford a golf - absolutely yes
can you and i afford an LP640 - in my case absolutely not - and im guessing (mind you its a guess only) that you wont be able to just buy an LP640 tomorrow morning

so whats the object of this comparison again - cos i cant make any sense at all out of it

LP640 Full

This is the full version of the video i posted. As Clarkson states:

Not many people can conceptualise a car that has:

V12, 471KW, with 660NM of torque
that does the 0-100 in 3.4 sec and reaches a top speed of 330 Km/hour

This is the whole idea behind top gear to setting it up....

at 500 units a month turnover by VW the GTI is quite well known by the general population.
i've seen tons of Mini street races and TLGP's involving a GTI but never actually seen a Lambo
LP640 in real life period...

So the aim of this is video was to actually put into the ordinary persons perspective exactly
how fast this car is and not to make the GTI look like a plaything. That was my opinion of wat it looked like...
The GTI is a fast car dont get me wrong and it is 15times less than the LP640...

This video achieves the set out purpose... Maybe you've seen an LP640 race Naughty, i havent.... this was the first time i've seen this car race.... and 4 me its a

Holy crap. That was ridiculous.

I so need that 'Sport Mode' thing on my Tazz.

Yep puts things in perspective. I was very fortunate to experience super fast cars some time ago on a regular basis some featuring 550Hp and I thought I could appreciate the difference between hot hatches and super cars until I was in one. It's chalk and cheese...
I marveled at the engineering because despite the speeds, acceleration and such they had God like handling, something you won't get with modded street cars as they are mostly not wind tunnel designed and don't have the re-refinement that goes into a performance production car.

OMG. Gouhan... LONG time dude.

theres no question of that

yes supercars are to be marvelled at - but whats the point of comparing them to mundane daily transport that we know is inferior - yes the golf has just over half the topend - and the golf has just around twice the 0-100 times - but the golf is also 15 times cheaper - so calling this an apples to oranges comparison is not even the case

would you benchmark a 80286 processor against the current intel quadcores and expect a fair comparison ???? - what would be the point - yes the car is fast - compare it to another fast car - no need to LOL at how slow a gti is comparatively

we all know its chalk and cheese bro - so why try to reinforce that point which isnt even in dispute - this is the type of nonsense people get up to when they are bored and have too much time on their hands to waste - cos it serves no real purpose - no-one is going to worship a lambo just cos its faster than a gti

note that my objection is not to the test but the nonsense in the first post - how can the gti look like a toy - its a damn car - and one thats just designed to take you from place A to place B - any other connotations are appended by the fanboys - no-one ever claimed it was anything it isnt - and in my humble opinion it is great value for money when you consider that you will spend less than 15 times the amount that a supercar like a lambo can achieve - im more impressed with the gti than the lambo - cos for the price id expect more - but we know that cannot happen cos the super rich are just there to be taken advantage of

and Nitro_Guy - this doesnt mean that i hate you for posting in that manner - it merely means that i dont agree with the manner in which you posted it - i dont have a problem with you otherwise - just wish that people post their topics in a more logical manner - to me the golf is nothing to LOL about even when you compare it to a lambo

Lol, Naughty, I think you miss the point of the post.

Golf GTI - well known fast car.
Lambo - Known to be fast, but can you really understand how fast? Probably not, all those numbers mean nothing to the average person.

So, put them head to head so you can see how fast the lambo really is, it wasnt trying to say the golf is shit, or that the lambo is amazing, all it was doing was creating something for the average joe to be able to compare the lambo to, so you can actually see how fast it is. The test had nothing to do with how much the cars cost or anything else, it was merely a comparison.

Its like speaking to an alien.

dude, elephants are big.
Really?
Yup.
How big?
Well, see that dog over there, like Xtimes bigger than that.

Thats all it was for man

I enjoy watching a lambo eat another car anyday. Doesn't matter what car!

Also you wouldn't bench a 286 against a quad core because that's not even putting them in the same respect as this post.

Both are 2007 models and i'm sure you will see allot of benches putting a quad core against the AM2 so what's the point of that everyone will know the quad core will win but they still want to see how much of a performance difference going from their 939 3800+ boxes to a quad will give them.

Yes there is a vast difference in price between the lambo and the GTI 15x you say?

AMD 4200+ = like R550
X6800 = R12000 still at retail

Price difference = 21x

whatever you guys say - it makes zero sense to compare a lambo to a gti - even less sesnse to LOL at how the gti does - and everybody knows that the lambo is gonna hand the gti it's ass - by how much ???? well im sure most people are expecting way more than you would see in the video

Relax.... my comment was a first impression thats all...
your comments on the LOL thingy was way over exasperated ... whether it made sense and i wasn't the only one that thought it was ridiculous at first...
See Rusty'z comment
I never intended on creating the impression that a GTI is an crap car in any way, the GTI is far from that. .. My comment was a joke(i.e. the GTI looks like a Toy)...



No hard feelings in any case. This is a public forum you're free to share your opinions i dont take it personally that you disagree.

There's only so much you caqn expect over 400M over 1KM it would be faaar behind.

Anyway I enjoyed the vid and could watch it over and over again.

see - the thing is most guys who would find that video to be relevant would already be car enthusiasts - and most of us enthusiasts have already encountered some form of speed - ive been in modded m3's and m5's and also porsche twin turbo's at close to 300km/h - so yeah IMHO any enthusiast would already be fairly aware of what supercars can do

the ordinary man in the street cannot afford the car so he wont even be bothered - and reading this thread would give him an impression that the lambo is more than what it is - whereas it isnt (if you get what i mean)

dont get me wrong - lambo is my dream car - id love to have one - still have an aim of maybe getting a Gallardo before i turn 50 (actually aim was before 45 - but im a bit behind due to unforeseen circumstances hehe) - nevertheless the car doesnt warrant the godlike status the thread implies - yes its nice - but then so is a cup of tea

compare the gti to the astra OPC or honda civic vtec etc and the lambo the ferrari's and bugatti's and mclarens - then it makes sense and all is good in the world - i dont compare my 4 year old nieces scooter to my polo gti - that would make me retarded in her eye

SAME THING HERE

Well here's the thing naughty there are very few technologies today that are linear in scaling and that's simply because as we get better or more efficient at any technology, the difference between the very best and the worst diminishes. That Polo GTI of yours is a better car than the super car of 1970 in almost all respects. The cost vs performance curve is not linear if anything it's logarithmic. For twice the speed you need many times the investment. The McLaren 2008 F1 car is more than 15X the price of the Lambo, but the numbers don't make it 15X better. However 5th gear did a comparison between a relatively fast M5 and an F1 car to illustrate the difference between the two classes of cars to not only enthusiasts but anybody whose ever wondered in real terms how much faster these machines are compared to his car for instance.

The GTI is great, but you can't really be impressed with it in this context just because it's cheaper. That was never in question as everybody knows that. Price is also not a metric relevant to everyone. To the guy who have tens or hundreds of millions the price difference between these cars is meaningless, but one thing that is universal to everybody is speed and that's all this video was showing. The test could have been between a CCXR and an OPC, or a Veyron against a 330d, it just happened to be an LP640 and a GTI.

I think the people were lol'ing at the ridiculousness of the gap between the cars, not the car itself