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Gitano
So Im trying to uninstall iTunes because when I try to watch a video I downloaded from iTunes, it jerks, pauses, fucks up, and otherwise pisses me off (brand new computer, so Im highly annoyed already)....

Windows stops iTunes, tells me there is something wrong with it, so I say ok, no worries, I try to uninstall iTunes.

Control panel -> uninstall iShit -> Error -> You must be Administrator to uninstall this program, you can log on as administrator to do this.

WTF, I am the only account on the fucking computer, I AM administrator ffs!
Any ideas guys?

I know that if I turn program control off, reboot, I can uninstall it, but why should I have to do this? I am the fecking admin, and vista should fecking know that, I am not bothered to turn program control off, reboot, uninstall, turn it back on, reboot again just to uninstall one crappy piece of software!!!
rurounikenshin
Welcome to Vista's User Account Control feature.

You might be the only account on the machine, but you're probably a "Standard User"

So what you now need to do is the following:

Go into Control Panel, go into Administrative Tools and then go into the Local Users and Computers, you will need to enable the Administrator account and maybe specifiy a password then log off.

You can now log on as the Administrator and uninstall iTunes.
What I would do now is upgrade your account from Standard User to Administrator.

You could also disable the requirement for UAC to elevate your credentials when working with programs but you will have to deal with the security centre complaining that your computer is at risk every time you log into Windows.

Once you sort out the accounts and the permissions and get used to this feature it's not so bad.

But it is annoying.

(sarcasm) Well done Microsoft (/sarcasm)
docmoo
alternatively:

start->run->msconfig->tools->disable uac->launch

and behold, you never have to actually confirm to shit biggrin.gif
rurounikenshin
Ah! That's handy!

Thanks Doc Moo!

Does doing that prompt the user whenever they login?

I've got 3 users moaning about the Security Centre Pop-up screen everytime they login.
Fishfly
UAC ftw shitty piece of crap~!

It's best to uninstall it the first opportunity you get
W@RP@T}{
You can also right click the uninstall and say run as Admin.
Gitano
QUOTE(rurounikenshin @ Oct 2 2007, 02:50 AM) *
Welcome to Vista's User Account Control feature.

You might be the only account on the machine, but you're probably a "Standard User"

So what you now need to do is the following:

Go into Control Panel, go into Administrative Tools and then go into the Local Users and Computers, you will need to enable the Administrator account and maybe specifiy a password then log off.

You can now log on as the Administrator and uninstall iTunes.
What I would do now is upgrade your account from Standard User to Administrator.

You could also disable the requirement for UAC to elevate your credentials when working with programs but you will have to deal with the security centre complaining that your computer is at risk every time you log into Windows.

Once you sort out the accounts and the permissions and get used to this feature it's not so bad.

But it is annoying.

(sarcasm) Well done Microsoft (/sarcasm)


Thanks Ruro, BUT..... there is no Local Users and Computers in my administrative tools....

And, check this:
docmoo
QUOTE(rurounikenshin @ Oct 2 2007, 11:10 AM) *
Ah! That's handy!

Thanks Doc Moo!

Does doing that prompt the user whenever they login?

I've got 3 users moaning about the Security Centre Pop-up screen everytime they login.


Im not sure, i turn off all the shitty ms security stuff so I get the popup anyway dry.gif but clicking the icon shows does show UAC so i am sure it will bitch
rurounikenshin
Oops! My badd Gitano!

Go into computer management and then you can enable/disable user accounts.

You could also have a look in the local security policy settings and make changes to UAC there.

From what I read today, the Security Centre will always prompt you if changes are made the UAC.

Eish, I see you are already an administrator?

Weird.

RavenServers
Hi,

I've never used Windows Vista myself, but just to chip in - the irony is that you obviously need to have administrative rights to grant administrative user rights, therefore assuming the program detected these rights were not available, he could be in for a rough ride.

This is also a reason why I believe people should NEVER buy a system with Vista pre-installed (or any other operating system for that matter) - they should format it immediately and install their operating system.

Best wishes

RavenServers
rurounikenshin
QUOTE
I've never used Windows Vista myself, but just to chip in - the irony is that you obviously need to have administrative rights to grant administrative user rights, therefore assuming the program detected these rights were not available, he could be in for a rough ride.


Usually the default account is a Standard User account.

This account has the ability to enable and disable the Administrator Account on the machine.

This particular issue of Vista left me frustrated and confused for a few days till I got used to it.

But it's designed to stop viruses, malware and spyware running background processes and compromising the machines security.
LegendofMax
Uninstall vista go back to xp, have a braai.
RenegadeNukes
Don;t listen to LOM on this one

he has never used Vista before and he is making the judgement purely on the secound hand opinions of other people who have likely never used Vista either.

I am a Vista Home Premium user and that too a proud one. I have been using it for 6 months now and i can assure you that apart from a few minor hiccuyps here and there, it have yet to have a single problem using the system and it is well worth sticking with Vista.

Gitano = I have been able to uninstall stuff (including iTunes) without a hitch. Dunno how your problem came about.

Believe most of the problems with Vista come from people who try and put it on computers with crappy hardware. I have 2 GB RAM and a Conroe and i haven't even noticed a performance drop. The operating system is so smooth and i would take Vista over XP anyday
docmoo
I agree with RenegadeNukes on this one. I'm running Vista Business on my laptop and Ultimate on my home machine. I've had to turn off some of the fanciness of Vista for my laptop, because I often run out of RAM (Firefox + Zend Studio = no RAM). My home machine is smooth though. I did turn off some features after a while simply because I didn't really need them as well as did some optimising of other settings and never had a real hitch. This pc is on 24/7 and often goes a week or two without a reboot and even then it's still usable with Firefox, Zend, Outlook, Photo Shop and other stuff all running at the same time.

There have been some bad reviews on Vista, but I find it works well for me.
rurounikenshin
I am running Vista Business on my laptop (it came pre-loaded) and as I have said.

Apart from a few hassles here and there with features that I was unfamiliar with I am enjoying it.

All it takes is some patience and a few hours to read up and learn about them and you're fine.

Gitano
Well unfortunately, no luck with iTunes, looks like I will just have to raise the white flag, and turn off that shitty program control crap. I left it on because the security warnings pissed me off, but hey, sacrifices.

Oh, and besides this little pile of shit, I love vista, and I wont go back to XP.
LegendofMax
hey i have nothing against vista, its just not totally supported yet. ill eventually get it after about a year or so
RustPuppet
Service Pack FTW.

This is exactly how XP rolled out too: people bitched and swore they'd never leave 98 and then felt really daft when they forked out 6 months later.

There's no doubt Vista is the future, just have to have the know-how to circumvent some of the early glitches at this stage.

Reminds me when I first switched to Mac and declared OS X a piece of shit; now I wish Windows was half as intuitive.
rurounikenshin
Hehe,

I struggled when XP came out as well but I stuck it out and must've sent Microsoft 100000000000000000 error reports in an effort to get my problems resolved. I'll do the same with Vista.

I am doing the same with Vista, they have this awesome problems and reports system which I've been using.
My laptop came pre-loaded with a Roxio CD Creator package (which wasn't compatible with Vista... :? ) and after a few error reporting sessions I got a message to say that there was an update for the package.

After running the update I am sorted.

Stick with Vista, you'll be a whiz with it by the time everyone else eventually ditches XP.
RavenServers
QUOTE
Usually the default account is a Standard User account.

This account has the ability to enable and disable the Administrator Account on the machine.


I don't understand this logic - that defeats the purpose of a hierachiael access rights system! I do not see how this would prevent viruses from propogating, as all the virus would need to do is perform the shell opcode to grant administrative rights by means of any normal user!

There is a reason *nix / traditional hierachiael user rights haven't changed over the decades - it's proven and it works.

I am amazed if they really are "standard" users or just standard "administrators". One more point not to use Vista just yet...

Best wishes

RavenServers
rurounikenshin
QUOTE(RavenServers @ Oct 9 2007, 05:19 PM) *
QUOTE
Usually the default account is a Standard User account.

This account has the ability to enable and disable the Administrator Account on the machine.


I don't understand this logic - that defeats the purpose of a hierachiael access rights system! I do not see how this would prevent viruses from propogating, as all the virus would need to do is perform the shell opcode to grant administrative rights by means of any normal user!

There is a reason *nix / traditional hierachiael user rights haven't changed over the decades - it's proven and it works.

I am amazed if they really are "standard" users or just standard "administrators". One more point not to use Vista just yet...

Best wishes

RavenServers


I think you should stop bashing a product that you haven't used and give Vista a try before you continue to bash it any further.

Your arguements hold no wieght otherwise.
RavenServers
Hi,

OK, before a real argument arises as to one being able to point out flaws or have an opinion in mechanisms without having used the product be valid or not (especially whilst backing it with an interesting theory), I did some quick research into this and found the following interesting:

QUOTE
When you're logged in as administrator in Vista, the default behaviour is to launch all your programs in a non-administrative context and with a reduced integrity level. This way, a program that tries to modify anything that's not on its own integrity level will be constrained from doing so. If a program needs to run as administrator for whatever reason -- e.g., an administrative application like the Device Manager -- you'll be warned about it via the UAC dialog and asked whether or not you want to proceed.
I guess for now it should be pretty decent if UAC can't be defeated, as posted below:

QUOTE
The protection provided by UAC justifies itself very quickly when it's needed. At one point I was given a UAC warning about a program that I suspected was malware when it tried to launch itself. It wasn't malware, as it turned out, but the fact that it was not supposed to be running and that UAC alerted me to this fact was what mattered. (The number of such false alarms has been extremely low: I counted that one and maybe one other such incident in the entire time I've been using Vista as a production machine, which is about nine months.)


Thanks for driving me to do the research and learn something new. I won't go any further and cause a flame war or something.

Best wishes

RavenServers
rurounikenshin
Hehehe,

That's a more informative description than what I used so it's probably good you posted the info up.

Later mate.
Fishfly
my only bash is the business edition deleted all my mp3's crying.gif
RenegadeNukes
Why?
Fishfly
QUOTE
You just can’t seem to throw enough memory at Vista.

There have been a number of issues that Vista users have reported relating to copying and moving data, especially large numbers of files. Often there can be multiple errors at play making it difficult for Vista users to track down the problem, in fact very often there is little indication that file copy operations haven’t completed correctly. It’s only when the user checks the number of files in source and destination that they realize they have a problem.


LINK

all you vista lovers give this one a bash! lets see whta you think of VISTA NOW!

CrEaTi0n
I also run Vista business on my laptop and bar the problem Docmoo mentioned (Firefox + zend = no memory) i am very happy with it. There are some things that can be improved on (as they can in ALL operating systems) like network access speeds, Vista displaying detailed icons for folders containing lots of files/file types but overall i am happy.

Bring on the 1gig service pack biggrin.gif
rurounikenshin
Eish, I've never had problems copying data with ym Vista installation.

As we speak I am making a backup of a users profile, copying well over 2.6GB's to my machine then burning to DVD.

I think a majority of the problems that people experience can be tracked down to hardware.

I have a mate who tried to install Vista on a machine that wasn't rated to run Vista and guess what, it didn't work.

As for the memory issues, I have been fortunate enough to be given a free 512MB DIMM for my machine.

I'm now running 1.5GB RAM and things are looking better. The machine is alot more responsive.
I have all the gadgets switched on aswell as the fancy features and things were fine with 1GB but this extra 512MB has definitely made a difference.

I might sell this 512 and get me that 1GB DIMM I've had my eyes on for so long.

rurounikenshin
A mate of mine said that some one at his office is able to get their 1GB memory stick to act as system memory.

If the stick is Vista compatible, you can apparently add is to the total RAM.

Could be a helpful solution for the short term?
PsyWulf
It's called ReadyBoost ^^
rurounikenshin
AH!

Thanks mate!

I saw something about Readyboost a bit earlier today when I was working with a memory stick.
Can't remember which brand it was, I must go have a look.
CrEaTi0n
Yar, although im running 1.8Core2 with 1gig of memory so it shouldnt be to slow...

Ill get some more ram though, may help
RenegadeNukes
Readyboost is a lifesaver

At school the geniuses have tried to get Vista to work on a 512 MB RAM Computer. Nutters. Anyway especially when i need to photoshop stuff, I plug in my Memory Stick (one dedicated to RB and the other for stuff) and voila it turns from jamming whenever i do anything to working properly

Good stuff but no match for having proper ram!
QUOTE
QUOTE
You just can’t seem to throw enough memory at Vista.

There have been a number of issues that Vista users have reported relating to copying and moving data, especially large numbers of files. Often there can be multiple errors at play making it difficult for Vista users to track down the problem, in fact very often there is little indication that file copy operations haven’t completed correctly. It’s only when the user checks the number of files in source and destination that they realize they have a problem.


LINK

all you vista lovers give this one a bash! lets see whta you think of VISTA NOW!


I'm on Vista Home Premium and recently have copied over 30 Gigs of stuff and burned quite a bit on DVD, I had no issues and i'm running some insane machine either

E6600 and 2 Gigs!

Runs like greased lightning
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