Would anyone like to share their everyday carry gun if you do and if not why not?

I think you need to make what you want to know a bit clearer, what carry gun?

Umm... userl1mill - whats a carrygun?

i would assume he wants to know what gun we carry about - i personally carry an FN Browning hi-power P35 9mmP

mods done on it so far

1) nitrolloyed
2) removed trigger safety edit : magazine safety which is situated on trigger
3) pachmayr rubber grips
4) polished the feed ramp
5) throated the barrel
6) recoil shock absorber

have just done the licence renewal procedure - if its successful then im going to do the following further mods

1) work on trigger pull
2) add a 3 port compensator
3) replace pachmayr grips with hogue
4) if i can get the new laser sights from the US that are specifically made for this firearm - gonna get those
5) replace the sights with some form of combat sights as well as add the tritium night sights

heres a pic of how it looks now

removed trigger safety? please elaborate on that

Yahyar - the browning has two safety catches - one is your normal safety mechanism - and the other is on the trigger but is activated when the magazine is inserted - so for this one i did my own gunsmithing - and followed a modding guide to remove this magazine safety which is on the trigger - so that should technically read magazine safety - but the spring mechanism is on the actual trigger itself which is why i said trigger safety

more technically its a magazine safety - but the normal semi-automatic safety catch is still operational - with the magazine removed the trigger will not work but in terms of making the firearm combat ready i have actually made it possible for the firearm to be operated without a magazine inserted which is normally impossible

the usefulness of this feature is when you still have a round in the chamber and are counting how many rounds you have fired - you know you have done 12 and the 13th one is in the chamber and you need to replace the magazine - so you eject this during a combat run in preperation to replace the magazine and then fire the last round before you replace the magazine (i used to do combat shooting as a member of a shooting club a long time ago)

makes a note not to mess with Naughty

Ye - pretty intense about your gun there Does anyone have any actual stats on the amount of people who do carry a gun around? I don't...

Going slightly off topic here: naughty have you ever shot anyone?

haha - looking at your username i actually wouldnt mess with you - im harmless - but im not 100% sure about you though



not at all bru - and not even at anyone yet - i was mugged violently three times and even stabbed once before i got the gun - but after i got it and got into the habit of carrying it daily no-one tried anything - maybe thats a direct result of the attitude i now walk around with ie "the im not gonna be a helpless victim anymore" type of look with a meaningful glint in the eye if anyone comes too close - when you seem scared - other people will take advantage

but most situations i found that i didnt need the gun - only this one time when 6 guys surrounded me in the busstop - they changed their mind when i stood with my back to a wall and pulled the gun out and asked them who's coming first - they truly scattered after that - maybe just realized that all 6 of them were not a match for my 13 friends at my side LOL

I don't carry a gun. My daily gun would be the ability to delete the ad account of anyone that pisses me off at work. hehe.

I'm personally against people carrying lethal weapons. It removes any advantage police have of stopping armed crime etc, I am a staunch supporter of gun laws. If you must carry a gun to protect you - why not carry a less-than-lethal weapon that stuns but not kills

I understand your point of view Nukes, but believe me when I say that South Africa is an infinitely different place to Bahrain or even India.

People here have been killed for things as little as a pair of trainers!! The streets of SA can be a dangerous place indeed!

Define lethal weapon.... A pen can be a lethal weapon, a key can be a lethal weapon... human being's can be lethal weapons....

Something that stuns!

that is a none lethal weapon. I asked for a definition of a lethal weapon. The point I was trying to make is that just about anything can be lethal. So we going to have to walk around naked carrying stuff that stuns to satisfy Nukes.

Soz. Meant 2 say something that doesnt stun.

Are you serious, is it that bad!
But anyway if someone is trying to mug you, why not use a stun weapon that will leave the mugger on the floor groaning and allowing you to leave without killing him / her



RFOL.

But generally speaking a lethal weapon is a firearm, knife for NORMAL PEOPLE

In India we have a less than lethal rubber bullet gun for self defense. never have had to use it though.

Cause then that person will lay a charge of assault against you.

...and probably win and then you are the one going to jail

cos dead people can tell no tales

Why only stun some1 when they deserve to die?

If you kill a killer, you aren;t any better than the killer

But you will be the one left alive, at least.

Nukes, you say

but then in another thread you say



So you do condone death? What is the difference if someone is hung for killing someone, or you kill a killer?

in this day and age, you think the cops have any control over who carries weapons in this country?

more illegal guns are carried daily by people than legal ones.

A wise man once said this about guns :

"I would rather have one and not need it, than need one and not have it"

Nice Paul, I like it.
I would definitely carry a gun, but I don't know how to use one, and I wont ever carry one until I have been thoroughly trained.

If I kill someone who is trying to kill me, does that make me a bad person? Am I supposed to lie down and say, take it all, and then shoot me, I don't mind. Fuck that, I want to stay alive, so if I have to kill to do it, I have absolutely ZERO problem with that. Don't even start on someone threatening my family...... Just think 'carpet bombing'

lol. That was CrashandBurn. He came over and when i went to the toilet he posted it there. I didn't notice it at first.

I am firmly against the death penalty. Death is the easy way out. Nothing can be worse then lying in a cell with nothing left in your life for 30-40 years. Death is easy compared to it.

if you get to stay in jail - that may be true but here in SA - as soon as the jail gets full they start to release the guys who commited lesser crimes - only problem is that more than once they mixed things up and let a few guys go who were in for multiple murder and multiple rape as well as violent and armed robberies and hijackings

sadly that ideal reality doesnt exist here - and just for attempting to "citizens arrest" a thief thats standing in your house here you get charged with a whole load of nonsense like pointing a firearm and assault etc even if you didnt do anything to the guy - im sad to say - if it comes to some guy attempting to violently commit a crime against me where ive got a choice between letting him do what he wants or me surviving his attack - im gonna be the last man standing as far as i can help it

if i lived in Bahrain then im sure i wouldnt need the gun - but where i am right now - i dont leave home without it

apparently you never have been in a situation where you have feared for your life. You would not think the same thing you are thinking now. Or if this so called killer you talk about was about to kill your family. You would gladly put two holes in them gaurenteed. or maybe you can stun them so after it wears off they still can kill you. The rule of thumb according to local law enfforcement. If you fear for your life or life of some one you are with. you are authorized to use deadly force, and none of this movie shit. like ill shoot him in the arm so he drops his gun. thats B*ll Sh*T for sure. You shoot to kill if you fear for your life. you are in every right to do so. if there is no way out you have but only one choice and that is to shoot to kill to survive. Also per federal law you can not shoot some in deffense from 50 feet or further away. thats called hunting people. you are supposed to give you and the other person a chance to run or flee.

it appears that the people who post on here that say you are no better than a killer have no weapons and have no experience and are running their mouth with nothing to back it up but a simple oppinion but no facts. I am telling you the facts. I assure you if you were faced with some one trying to kill you, you would act accordingly.



NOTE THESE LAWS APPLY IN THE UNITED STATES ONLY. THESE LAWS ARE FOR MY LOCAL STATE THAT I LIVE IN THEY DO NOT REFLECT OTHER COUNTRIES.

PART I. ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT


TITLE XX. PUBLIC SAFETY AND GOOD ORDER


CHAPTER 140. LICENSES


SALE OF FIREARMS


Chapter 140: Section 131. Licenses to carry firearms; Class A and B; conditions and restrictions


Section 131. All licenses to carry firearms shall be designated Class A or Class B, and the issuance and possession of any such license shall be subject to the following conditions and restrictions:

(a) A Class A license shall entitle a holder thereof to purchase, rent, lease, borrow, possess and carry: (i) firearms, including large capacity firearms, and feeding devices and ammunition therefor, for all lawful purposes, subject to such restrictions relative to the possession, use or carrying of firearms as the licensing authority deems proper; and (ii) rifles and shotguns, including large capacity weapons, and feeding devices and ammunition therefor, for all lawful purposes; provided, however, that the licensing authority may impose such restrictions relative to the possession, use or carrying of large capacity rifles and shotguns as it deems proper. A violation of a restriction imposed by the licensing authority under the provisions of this paragraph shall be cause for suspension or revocation and shall, unless otherwise provided, be punished by a fine of not less than $1,000 nor more than $10,000; provided, however, that the provisions of section 10 of chapter 269 shall not apply to such violation.

The colonel of state police may, after an investigation, grant a Class A license to a club or facility with an on-site shooting range or gallery, which club is incorporated under the laws of the commonwealth for the possession, storage and use of large capacity weapons, ammunition therefor and large capacity feeding devices for use with such weapons on the premises of such club; provided, however, that not less than one shareholder of such club shall be qualified and suitable to be issued such license; and provided further, that such large capacity weapons and ammunition feeding devices may be used under such Class A club license only by such members that possess a valid firearm identification card issued under section 129B or a valid Class A or Class B license to carry firearms, or by such other persons that the club permits while under the direct supervision of a certified firearms safety instructor or club member who, in the case of a large capacity firearm, possesses a valid Class A license to carry firearms or, in the case of a large capacity rifle or shotgun, possesses a valid Class A or Class B license to carry firearms. Such club shall not permit shooting at targets that depict human figures, human effigies, human silhouettes or any human images thereof, except by public safety personnel performing in line with their official duties.

No large capacity weapon or large capacity feeding device shall be removed from the premises except for the purposes of: (i) transferring such firearm or feeding device to a licensed dealer; (ii) transporting such firearm or feeding device to a licensed gunsmith for repair; (iii) target, trap or skeet shooting on the premises of another club incorporated under the laws of the commonwealth and for transporting thereto; (iv) attending an exhibition or educational project or event that is sponsored by, conducted under the supervision of or approved by a public law enforcement agency or a nationally or state recognized entity that promotes proficiency in or education about semiautomatic weapons and for transporting thereto and therefrom; (v) hunting in accordance with the provisions of chapter 131; or (vi) surrendering such firearm or feeding device under the provisions of section 129D. Any large capacity weapon or large capacity feeding device kept on the premises of a lawfully incorporated shooting club shall, when not in use, be secured in a locked container, and shall be unloaded during any lawful transport. The clerk or other corporate officer of such club shall annually file a report with the colonel of state police and the executive director of the criminal history systems board listing all large capacity weapons and large capacity feeding devices owned or possessed under such license. The colonel of state police or his designee, shall have the right to inspect all firearms owned or possessed by such club upon request during regular business hours and said colonel may revoke or suspend a club license for a violation of any provision of this chapter or chapter 269 relative to the ownership, use or possession of large capacity weapons or large capacity feeding devices.

(b) A Class B license shall entitle a holder thereof to purchase, rent, lease, borrow, possess and carry: (i) non-large capacity firearms and feeding devices and ammunition therefor, for all lawful purposes, subject to such restrictions relative to the possession, use or carrying of such firearm as the licensing authority deems proper; provided, however, that a Class B license shall not entitle the holder thereof to carry or possess a loaded firearm in a concealed manner in any public way or place; and provided further, that a Class B license shall not entitle the holder thereof to possess a large capacity firearm, except under a Class A club license issued under this section or under the direct supervision of a holder of a valid Class A license at an incorporated shooting club or licensed shooting range; and (ii) rifles and shotguns, including large capacity rifles and shotguns, and feeding devices and ammunition therefor, for all lawful purposes; provided, however, that the licensing authority may impose such restrictions relative to the possession, use or carrying of large capacity rifles and shotguns as he deems proper. A violation of a restriction provided under this paragraph, or a restriction imposed by the licensing authority under the provisions of this paragraph, shall be cause for suspension or revocation and shall, unless otherwise provided, be punished by a fine of not less than $1,000 nor more than $10,000; provided, however, that the provisions of section 10 of chapter 269 shall not apply to such violation.

A Class B license shall not be a valid license for the purpose of complying with any provision under this chapter governing the purchase, sale, lease, rental or transfer of any weapon or ammunition feeding device if such weapon is a large capacity firearm or if such ammunition feeding device is a large capacity feeding device for use with a large capacity firearm, both as defined in section 121.

© Either a Class A or Class B license shall be valid for the purpose of owning, possessing, purchasing and transferring non-large capacity rifles and shotguns, and for purchasing and possessing chemical mace, pepper spray or other similarly propelled liquid, gas or powder designed to temporarily incapacitate, consistent with the entitlements conferred by a firearm identification card issued under section 129B.

(d) Any person residing or having a place of business within the jurisdiction of the licensing authority or any person residing in an area of exclusive federal jurisdiction located within a city or town may submit to such licensing authority or the colonel of state police, an application for a Class A or Class B license to carry firearms, or renewal of the same, which such licensing authority or said colonel may issue if it appears that the applicant is a suitable person to be issued such license, and that the applicant has good reason to fear injury to his person or property, or for any other reason, including the carrying of firearms for use in sport or target practice only, subject to such restrictions expressed or authorized under this section, unless the applicant:

(i) has, in any state or federal jurisdiction, been convicted or adjudicated a youthful offender or delinquent child for the commission of (a) a felony; (b) a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for more than two years; © a violent crime as defined in section 121; (d) a violation of any law regulating the use, possession, ownership, transfer, purchase, sale, lease, rental, receipt or transportation of weapons or ammunition for which a term of imprisonment may be imposed; or (e) a violation of any law regulating the use, possession or sale of controlled substances as defined in section 1 of chapter 94C;

(ii) has been confined to any hospital or institution for mental illness, unless the applicant submits with his application an affidavit of a registered physician attesting that such physician is familiar with the applicant’s mental illness and that in such physician’s opinion the applicant is not disabled by such an illness in a manner that should prevent such applicant from possessing a firearm;

(iii) is or has been under treatment for or confinement for drug addiction or habitual drunkenness, unless such applicant is deemed to be cured of such condition by a licensed physician, and such applicant may make application for such license after the expiration of five years from the date of such confinement or treatment and upon presentment of an affidavit issued by such physician stating that such physician knows the applicant’s history of treatment and that in such physician’s opinion the applicant is deemed cured;

(iv) is at the time of the application less than 21 years of age;

(v) is an alien;

(vi) is currently subject to: (A) an order for suspension or surrender issued pursuant to section 3B or 3C of chapter 209A or a similar order issued by another jurisdiction; or (B) a permanent or temporary protection order issued pursuant to chapter 209A or a similar order issued by another jurisdiction; or

(vii) is currently the subject of an outstanding arrest warrant in any state or federal jurisdiction.

(e) Within seven days of the receipt of a completed application for a license to carry or possess firearms, or renewal of same, the licensing authority shall forward one copy of the application and one copy of the applicant’s fingerprints to the colonel of state police, who shall within 30 days advise the licensing authority, in writing, of any disqualifying criminal record of the applicant arising from within or without the commonwealth and whether there is reason to believe that the applicant is disqualified for any of the foregoing reasons from possessing a license to carry or possess firearms. In searching for any disqualifying history of the applicant, the colonel shall utilize, or cause to be utilized, files maintained by the department of probation and statewide and nationwide criminal justice, warrant and protection order information systems and files including, but not limited to, the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. The colonel shall inquire of the commissioner of the department of mental health relative to whether the applicant is disqualified from being so licensed. If the information available to the colonel does not indicate that the possession of a firearm or large capacity firearm by the applicant would be in violation of state or federal law, he shall certify such fact, in writing, to the licensing authority within said 30 day period.

The licensing authority may also make inquiries concerning the applicant to: (i) the executive director of the criminal history systems board relative to any disqualifying condition and records of purchases, sales, rentals, leases and transfers of weapons or ammunition concerning the applicant; (ii) the commissioner of probation relative to any record contained within the department of probation or the statewide domestic violence record keeping system concerning the applicant; and (iii) the commissioner of the department of mental health relative to whether the applicant is a suitable person to possess firearms or is not a suitable person to possess firearms. The director or commissioner to whom the licensing authority makes such inquiry shall provide prompt and full cooperation for that purpose in any investigation of the applicant.

The licensing authority shall, within 40 days from the date of application, either approve the application and issue the license or deny the application and notify the applicant of the reason for such denial in writing; provided, however, that no such license shall be issued unless the colonel has certified, in writing, that the information available to him does not indicate that the possession of a firearm or large capacity firearm by the applicant would be in violation of state or federal law.

(f) A license issued under this section shall be revoked or suspended by the licensing authority, or his designee, upon the occurrence of any event that would have disqualified the holder from being issued such license or from having such license renewed. A license may be revoked or suspended by the licensing authority if it appears that the holder is no longer a suitable person to possess such license. Any revocation or suspension of a license shall be in writing and shall state the reasons therefor. Upon revocation or suspension, the licensing authority shall take possession of such license and the person whose license is so revoked or suspended shall take all actions required under the provisions of section 129D. No appeal or post-judgment motion shall operate to stay such revocation or suspension. Notices of revocation and suspension shall be forwarded to the executive director of the criminal history systems board and the commissioner of probation and shall be included in the criminal justice information system. A revoked or suspended license may be reinstated only upon the termination of all disqualifying conditions, if any.

Any applicant or holder aggrieved by a denial, revocation or suspension of a license, unless a hearing has previously been held pursuant to chapter 209A, may, within either 90 days after receiving notice of such denial, revocation or suspension or within 90 days after the expiration of the time limit during which the licensing authority is required to respond to the applicant, file a petition to obtain judicial review in the district court having jurisdiction in the city or town wherein the applicant filed for, or was issued, such license. A justice of such court, after a hearing, may direct that a license be issued or reinstated to the petitioner if such justice finds that there was no reasonable ground for denying, suspending or revoking such license and that the petitioner is not prohibited by law from possessing same.

(g) A license shall be in a standard form provided by the executive director of the criminal history systems board in a size and shape equivalent to that of a license to operate motor vehicles issued by the registry of motor vehicles pursuant to section 8 of chapter 90 and shall contain a license number which shall clearly indicate whether such number identifies a Class A or Class B license, the name, address, photograph, fingerprint, place and date of birth, height, weight, hair color, eye color and signature of the licensee. Such license shall be marked “License to Carry Firearms” and shall clearly indicate whether the license is Class A or Class B. The application for such license shall be made in a standard form provided by the executive director of the criminal history systems board, which form shall require the applicant to affirmatively state under the pains and penalties of perjury that such applicant is not disqualified on any of the grounds enumerated above from being issued such license.

(h) Any person who knowingly files an application containing false information shall be punished by a fine of not less than $500 nor more than $1,000 or by imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than two years in a house of correction, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

(i) A license to carry or possess firearms shall be valid, unless revoked or suspended, for a period of not more than 6 years from the date of issue and shall expire on the anniversary of the licensee’s date of birth occurring not less than 5 years but not more than 6 years from the date of issue, except that if the licensee applied for renewal before the license expired, the license shall remain valid for a period of 90 days beyond the stated expiration date on the license, unless the application for renewal is denied. Any renewal thereof shall expire on the anniversary of the licensee’s date of birth occurring not less than 5 years but not more than 6 years from the effective date of such license. Any license issued to an applicant born on February 29 shall expire on March 1. The fee for the application shall be $100, which shall be payable to the licensing authority and shall not be prorated or refunded in case of revocation or denial. The licensing authority shall retain $25 of the fee; $50 of the fee shall be deposited into the general fund of the commonwealth and not less than $50,000 of the funds deposited into the General Fund shall be allocated to the Firearm Licensing Review Board, established in section 130B, for its operations and that any funds not expended by said board for its operations shall revert back to the General Fund; and $25 of the fee shall be deposited in the Firearms Fingerprint Identity Verification Trust Fund. For law enforcement officials, or local, state, or federal government entities acting on their behalf, the fee for the application shall be set at $25, which shall be payable to the licensing authority and shall not be prorated or refunded in case of revocation or denial. The licensing authority shall retain $12.50 of the fee, and $12.50 of the fee shall be deposited into the general fund of the commonwealth. Notwithstanding any general or special law to the contrary, licensing authorities shall deposit such portion of the license application fee into the Firearms Record Keeping Fund quarterly, not later than January 1, April 1, July 1 and October 1 of each year. Notwithstanding any general or special law to the contrary, licensing authorities shall deposit quarterly such portion of the license application fee as is to be deposited into the General Fund, not later than January 1, April 1, July 1 and October 1 of each year. For the purposes of section 10 of chapter 269, an expired license to carry firearms shall be deemed to be valid for a period not to exceed 90 days beyond the stated date of expiration, unless such license to carry firearms has been revoked.

Any person over the age of 70 and any law enforcement officer applying for a license to carry firearms through his employing agency shall be exempt from the requirement of paying a renewal fee for a Class A or Class B license to carry.

(j)(1) No license shall be required for the carrying or possession of a firearm known as a detonator and commonly used on vehicles as a signaling and marking device, when carried or possessed for such signaling or marking purposes.

(2) No license to carry shall be required for the possession of an unloaded large capacity rifle or shotgun or an unloaded feeding device therefor by a veteran’s organization chartered by the Congress of the United States, chartered by the commonwealth or recognized as a nonprofit tax-exempt organization by the Internal Revenue Service, or by the members of any such organization when on official parade duty or during ceremonial occasions. For purposes of this subparagraph, an “unloaded large capacity rifle or shotgun” and an “unloaded feeding device therefor” shall include any large capacity rifle, shotgun or feeding device therefor loaded with a blank cartridge or blank cartridges, so-called, which contain no projectile within such blank or blanks or within the bore or chamber of such large capacity rifle or shotgun.

(k) Whoever knowingly issues a license in violation of this section shall be punished by a fine of not less than $500 nor more than $1,000 or by imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than two years in a jail or house of correction, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

(l) The executive director of the criminal history systems board shall send by first class mail to the holder of each such license to carry firearms, a notice of the expiration of such license not less than 90 days prior to such expiration and shall enclose therein a form for the renewal of such license. The taking of fingerprints shall not be required in issuing the renewal of a license if the renewal applicant’s fingerprints are on file with the department of the state police. Any licensee shall notify, in writing, the licensing authority who issued said license, the chief of police into whose jurisdiction the licensee moves and the executive director of the criminal history systems board of any change of address. Such notification shall be made by certified mail within 30 days of its occurrence. Failure to so notify shall be cause for revocation or suspension of said license.

(m) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 10 of chapter 269, any person in possession of a firearm, rifle or shotgun whose license issued under this section is invalid for the sole reason that it has expired, meaning after 90 days beyond the stated expiration date on the license, but who shall not be disqualified from renewal upon application therefor under this section, shall be subject to a civil fine of not less than $500 nor more than $5,000 and the provisions of section 10 of chapter 269 shall not apply; provided, however, that the exemption from the provisions of said section 10 of said chapter 269 provided herein shall not apply if: (i)such license has been revoked or suspended, unless such revocation or suspension was caused by failure to give notice of a change of address as required under this section; (ii) revocation or suspension of such license is pending, unless such revocation or suspension was caused by failure to give notice of a change of address as required under this section; or (iii) an application for renewal of such license has been denied. Any law enforcement officer who discovers a person to be in possession of a firearm, rifle or shotgun after such person’s license has expired, meaning after 90 days beyond the stated expiration date on the license, has been revoked or suspended, solely for failure to give notice of a change of address, shall confiscate such firearm, rifle or shotgun and the expired or suspended license then in possession and such officer, shall forward such license to the licensing authority by whom it was issued as soon as practicable. The officer shall, at the time of confiscation, provide to the person whose firearm, rifle or shotgun has been confiscated, a written inventory and receipt for all firearms, rifles or shotguns confiscated and the officer and his employer shall exercise due care in the handling, holding and storage of these items. Any confiscated weapon shall be returned to the owner upon the renewal or reinstatement of such expired or suspended license within one year of such confiscation or may be otherwise disposed of in accordance with the provisions of section 129D. The provisions of this paragraph shall not apply if such person has a valid license to carry firearms issued under section 131F.

(n) Upon issuance of a license to carry or possess firearms under this section, the licensing authority shall forward a copy of such approved application and license to the executive director of the criminal history systems board, who shall inform the licensing authority forthwith of the existence of any disqualifying condition discovered or occurring subsequent to the issuance of a license under this section.

(o) No person shall be issued a license to carry or possess a machine gun in the commonwealth, except that a licensing authority or the colonel of state police may issue a machine gun license to:

(i) a firearm instructor certified by the municipal police training committee for the sole purpose of firearm instruction to police personnel;

(ii) a bona fide collector of firearms upon application or upon application for renewal of such license.

(p) The executive director of the criminal history systems board shall promulgate regulations in accordance with chapter 30A to establish criteria for persons who shall be classified as bona fide collectors of firearms.

(q) Nothing in this section shall authorize the purchase, possession or transfer of any weapon, ammunition or feeding device that is, or in such manner that is, prohibited by state or federal law.

® The secretary of the executive office of public safety or his designee may promulgate regulations to carry out the purposes of this section.

here is the link read for yourself.


http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/gl-140-toc.htm




SALE OF FIREARMS.
Chapter 140, Section 121. Firearms sales; definitions; antique firearms; application of law; exceptions.

Chapter 140, Section 121A. Identification of firearms; certificate by ballistics expert as prima facie evidence.

Chapter 140, Section 122. Licenses; contents; fingerprints of applicants; procedure on refusal of license; fees; punishment for improper issuance.

Chapter 140, Section 122A. Record of licenses; notice to criminal history systems board; sales record books.

Chapter 140, Section 122B. Sale of ammunition; license; fees; rules and regulations; refusal, suspension or revocation of license; judicial review; penalties.

Chapter 140, Section 123. Conditions of licenses.

Chapter 140, Section 124. Term of licenses.

Chapter 140, Section 125. Forfeiture or suspension of licenses; notice.

Chapter 140, Section 126. Placards, signs or advertisements; prima facie evidence.

Chapter 140, Section 127. Transfer of licenses.

Chapter 140, Section 128. Penalty for violation of statute on selling, renting or leasing weapons; evidence on sale of machine gun.

Chapter 140, Section 128A. Application of sec. 128.

Chapter 140, Section 128B. Unauthorized purchase of firearms; report to commissioner; penalties.

Chapter 140, Section 129. Fictitious name or address and other false information; penalties.

Chapter 140, Section 129A. Repealed, 1945, 254.

Chapter 140, Section 129B. Firearm identification cards; conditions and restrictions.

Chapter 140, Section 129C. Application of sec. 129B; ownership or possession of firearms or ammunition; transfers; report to executive director; exemptions; exhibiting license to carry, etc. on demand.

Chapter 140, Section 129D. Surrender of firearms and ammunition to licensing authority upon denial of application for, or revocation of, identification card or license; right to transfer; sale by colonel of state police; rules and regulations.

Chapter 140, Section 130. Sale or furnishing weapons or ammunition to aliens or minors; penalty; exceptions.

Chapter 140, Section 130A. Repealed, 1957, 688, Sec. 14.

Chapter 140, Section 131. Licenses to carry firearms; Class A and B; conditions and restrictions.

Chapter 140, Section 131A. Permits to purchase, rent or lease firearms, or to purchase ammunition; fee; penalties.

Chapter 140, Section 131B. Penalty for loan of money secured by weapons.

Chapter 140, Section 131C. Carrying of firearms in a vehicle.

Chapter 140, Section 131D. Repealed, 1954, 672, Sec. 7.

Chapter 140, Section 131E. Purchase by residents; licenses; firearm identification cards; purchase for use of another; penalties; revocation of licenses or cards; reissuance.

Chapter 140, Section 131F. Nonresidents or aliens; temporary license to carry firearms or ammunition.

Chapter 140, Section 131F½. Theatrical productions; carrying firearms and blank ammunition.

Chapter 140, Section 131G. Carrying of firearms by non-residents; conditions.

Chapter 140, Section 131H. Ownership or possession of firearms by aliens; penalties; seizure and disposition.

Chapter 140, Section 131I. Falsifying firearm license or identification card; penalty.

Chapter 140, Section 131J. Sale or possession of electrical weapons; penalties.

Chapter 140: Section 131K Firearms or large capacity weapons without safety devices; liability

Chapter 140: Section 131L Weapons stored or kept by owner; inoperable by any person other than owner or lawfully authorized user; punishment

Chapter 140: Section 131M Assault weapon or large capacity feeding device not lawfully possessed on September 13, 1994; sale, transfer or possession; punishment

Chapter 140: Section 131N Covert weapons; sale, transfer or possession; punishment

Chapter 140: Section 131O Colonel of state police; statewide firearms surrender program

Chapter 140: Section 131P Basic firearms safety certificate; instructors

Chapter 140, Section 132--136. Repealed, 1954, 672, Sec. 7.

glad to see i answer all of your questions with that last post.

I sold my gun. At the time I didn't see the point in keeping it with the laws what they are in this country.
Wish I had kept it though.

I now carry a Spyderco Matriarch on me at all times. I've been on 2 different knife courses to learn how to use it effectively.
(Ironically I don't have it on me at the moment).

If I was in a situation and genuinly feared for my life or the life of friends/family I will not hesitate yo use it, with deadly force if need be.

I've attached a pic of the knive I usually carry.

i am picking up a Glock 17 friday..

Thats a fine piece of hardware vacc!

Have you got a link with the specs for it vacc?

The laser is from http://www.lasermax-inc.com/

Mfg. suggested retail price:
$339.00



For: GLOCK 17L, GLOCK 24, GLOCK 34, GLOCK 35

Battery Model: LMS-3x393 (readily available silver oxide batteries commonly used in watches)

Accuracy (20 Yards): ±2" POA

Laser Operating Temperature: 15°-120° F

Wavelength: 635nm (red-orange)

Power Output: 5mW (brightest available - blinks for highest visibility)

Spot size: at 7 yds 5/16”, spot size at 25 yds 3/4”.
If any firearm has been ported, fluted or compensated either by the original manufacturer or by a gunsmith, LaserMax will NOT guarantee alignment. Custom alignment quotes for firearms may be obtained by calling LaserMax. NATO Stock No. 1005-99-500-4480 U.S. Patent Nos. 4,934,086 & 5,509,226. European Patent No. 0431097 Other worldwide patents pending.

Please Note: 1. Expect to change your batteries once a year with typical usage.
2. Cold weather batteries are available for some models. Call Factory for details.
3. Battery operating temperature is 15°F-120°F






the pistol is glock... www.glock.com its the G17 under pistol models..



GLOCK 17 9x19




CALIBER: 9x19
SYSTEM: Safe Action
WEIGHT: 625 g / 22.04 oz.
LOADED: 905 g / 31.91 oz.

LENGTH: 186 mm / 7.32 in.
HEIGHT: 138 mm / 5.43 in.
MAG. CAPACITY: Standard: 17
OPTIONAL: 19 / 33

WIDTH: 30 mm / 1.18 in.
BARREL HEIGHT: 32 mm / 1.26 in.
TRIGGER PULL: 2.5 kg / 5.5 lbs.
TRIGGER TRAVEL: 12.5 mm / 0.5 in.

LINE OF SIGHT: 165 mm / 6.49 in.
BARREL LENGTH: 114 mm / 4.49 in.
BARREL RIFLING: right hand, hexagonal
LENGTH OF TWIST: 250 mm / 9.84 in.

Where in MA are you?

Not to be off topic

But sould trhis be inb the off topic forum or fight club!

Thisn't exactly SPAM as such

I do carry a stun gun with me daily as a self protection tool.