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Fishfly
Alrightee so let me start this ranting2.gif

Firstly as you might all be aware, Telkom bought out an 4Mbps service for "Trial" till the 1 February 2007. now that the Trail period is over, Telkom did a press release that the 4Mbps is now "UP TO 4Mbps" with a minimum of 640Kbps...

so my rant is:

1. ADSL is not a wireless connection that can warrant a "UP to" service there shouldn't be any disruptions to their dsl lines.
2. This makes us the consumer/client pay for a "UP to" 4Mbps service yet they have the right to give you a 640Kbps connection.
3. So in essence in pt 2 above we are getting screwed over by paying for a service that we think we are getting and getting a inferior product.

That's like buying a Ferrari and only getting a Fiesta engine in it... htf?

Telkom must death.gif chair.gif
Valheru
QUOTE(Fishfly @ Feb 7 2007, 11:01 AM) *
That's like buying a Ferrari and only getting a Fiesta engine in it... htf?

Telkom must death.gif chair.gif

They do it because they can get away with it. They appear not to have economic development at heart, since they are putting these services beyond the means of most private clients and most smaller business clients. Fucking stupid if you ask me.
CyberStorm
Found on myadsl:

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Telkom Gives 'Guaranteed' Minimum ADSL Speeds
By MyADSL, 31 January 2007

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Telkom recently started publishing minimum speeds associated with its ADSL offerings, assumable to fall in line with the ADSL regulations.


The Telkom website provides both the minimum and the maximum upstream and downstream speeds.

According to Telkom their DSL384 service has a minimum downstream speed of 256kbps and a maximum of 384kbps. On the upstream side it is 64kbps and 128kbps respectively.

Its DSL512 service carries a minimum downlink speed of 416kbps, a maximum of 512kbps and a minimum and maximum of 192kbps and 256kbps in the uplink department.

Its DSL Up to 4096Kbps trial has a maximum speed of 4096kbps and a minimum of 640kbps. There are however three other profiles in this trial, namely 3072kbps, 2048kbps and1024kbps.

ADSL Regulations

The ADSL regulations stipulate that Telkom, Neotel and ISPs must guarantee minimum speeds to ensure that the ADSL service does not lose its broadband characteristics which are defined as having a downlink speed of 256 Kbps.

This definition is however grossly inadequate as it does not clearly stipulate how the downlink speed must be measured, which means that it may well be interpreted as actual user experience from local and international servers, or even as the sync rate of the specific service.

As it is not in Telkom’s interest to guarantee either international or local throughput, the minimum and maximum speeds given on their website refer to sync speed rather than actual throughput.

The sync speed is not of much value to consumers who are looking for an indication of the ‘real-world’ performance of a broadband service.

Local and international bandwidth provisioning and contention ratios associated with this bandwidth allocation directly influence the actual throughput of their service and without this information the sync rate is of little value.

Telkom did give the local contention ratio, namely 20:1, but remains mum on their international contention ratios which influence the speed at which international websites and services are accessed.

Lack of clarity

The lack of clarity from ICASA regarding its ADSL regulations continue to influence the provisioning of ADSL and hence the level of transparency from Telkom regarding the characteristics of their ADSL service.

It is not surprising that organizations like ISPA, who have requested clarity from the ICASA on which elements of the access layer will be utilised in measuring a minimum broadband service, have been left in the dark.

Without clarity and an improved set of regulations from ICASA, Telkom will continue to run circles around the Authority and make a mockery of the regulations.

Fishfly
yeah that was the one I was talking about was too lazy to find the link again biggrin.gif
Milano
Telkom would love to guarantee higher minimum speeds however that would seriously impact on Telkom's profit margins. This would mean lower renumeration packages for management level staff and Telkom's government share holder. Some managers would be forced to downgrade to the Audi A4.

I am sure you appreciate that this would be unacceptable.



Fishfly
Hell I'm sure that is acceptable seeing that driving a ferrari on a 120km/h road is not tolerated... so what's the difference in driving a class down angry.gif

they must just go jump!

besides with their idea of 10% or wherever many dsl growth, faster speed will result in more users signing up would mean mroe people get they money's worth...

if you work it out lets say 10 users who pay R1000 for a 640kbps service now if they had a minimum speed level of 4Mbps @ R1000 with 200 users who sign up... yes it's infustructure... but hell that's a once off payment... anyhow I ain't going down this road fuyou_2.gif teleskum
CrEaTi0n
My adsl got downgraded from 4meg to 2meg and hell knows why, im still trying to find out why...

I think telkom are approaching this all wrong, they need to be getting more users and with more users the price "might" come down because of the sharing and average bandwidth that people use...

eish.
fx
If you compare their "guarantees" to an average ISP I think you'll find telkoms are very generous. Add that to the fact that I don't know anyone who can't reliably download at 4meg (flat out) during the middle of the day on telkoms infrastructure, and really the people who should be embarressed are other ISP's who you can often feel the "mid-day" crunchdown with...

W@RP@T}{
I was talking about this to one of the guys here at work yesterday it's actually BUllcrap

Telkom is just stealing money from us they could give us 8MB or more on the current infrastructure just by changing your account on the backend
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