1- She's a bitch
Contemporary society is awash in rude, self-centered, man-hating Sex and the City clones who care only about themselves and have absolutely no conscience regarding men's feelings (or the feelings of other women, for that matter). Their attitude is: I have a million-dollar sexual price tag and any man is going to have to bow and scrape and pay dearly to gain access to it. These are the women who will try to emasculate you when you ask them out (if you don't have something they can sex-ploit), who get off on making men squirm, and who flagrantly abuse their sexual power.

2- You don't have the goods
Since money is the No. 1 factor a woman considers when choosing which men to date, if you don't have it or you don't look like you have it, then you're just not going to be on the top of her list. Until men refuse to pay for female attention, women are going to keep getting away with this kind of sex-tortion.

3- She's taken
Since it's so easy for a woman to get sex (all she has to do is ask), she may simply be off the market. She may have a lover, a steady boyfriend or a husband. If these women are nice, they'll be upfront about their situation; if they're professional ball-busters, they'll manipulate you without mercy. So it's always best to do your homework before laying your ego on the line -- this way, you'll save yourself a lot of humiliation and embarrassment.

4- She's a player
In other words, she's a serial flirter. A lot of married women or women with low self-esteem fall into this category -- they constantly need to be assured that they're still attractive to men, and so will ooze up to any guy who comes close just to get his reaction. They have no interest in dating you -- just in getting you turned on and then walking away. This is another flagrant abuse of female sexual power over men.

5- She's a psycho
A lot of women out there have chosen "bad boys" or have, for psychological reasons, been involved in disastrous relationships and now blame men for all the problems of their own making. Some of them have dropped out of the dating pool altogether or have been repeatedly abandoned by men because of their chaotic behavior. They will reject you just because you're one of "them."

6- You have the wrong moves
If you "Hey, baby" her while snaking an unctuous arm around her shoulders, leer at her or keep calling her when she's clearly not interested, then you're just a creepy pest, and you'll have about as much of a chance of sleeping with her as a eunuch does.

7- It's bad timing
If a woman turns you down, you may have run head-on into some bizarre phase of her monthly cycle in which all men are bad, or she may be feeling unattractive, or any of a thousand other hormone-based reactions to the dating world. You could run into her a couple of days from now and get a complete green light.

8- She's been hurt
Anytime you hear "I'm taking a break from dating" or "I need some time to get my life together" when you ask a woman out, it usually means that she's just come out of a bad relationship and is not yet interested in jumping into a new one. With this sort of damaged woman, it's best to aim for friendship or wait a while for her to straighten herself out before trying again.

9- You're a geek
In other words, you have no sexual confidence whatsoever and you melt like ice cream in July whenever she gets within 10 feet of you. You don't have to be James Bond, but if you can't even get a sentence out around her without stammering, then there's no way she's going to accept a date with you. You will be instantly relegated to "friend" status, if that.

10- She's just not attracted to you
Simple as that. It happens and there's nothing you can do about it. It's best to just pick up the pieces and move on.

Everything I ever needed to know summarised. I'll print it out and stick it on my wall!

I agree completely Shi-shi. I will never understand the women that do these things (sometimes all these things at once).

It's freaking aggravating to see decent guys being treated like shit thanks to these women.

TSK TSK.

No specifics about penis sizes?

what about girls that are just plain scared of relationships



i had that before, with the green light afterwards. its a total mindfuck

women are afraid of relationships because of bad past experiences with other men... whether its a bad romantic relationship experience or having a bad male role model growing up...

i know of someone who has never had a bf because her father treated her mother so badly, that she doesnt want the same thing, so she is afraid of entering into relationships

That's a very common thing Shi-shi.

I've also heard that girls who had an abusive father tend to pick men that will be abusive towards them too - without even realising what they are doing, completely unintentionally. It's quite interesting.

I was on the receiving end of one of these. Played 2nd fiddle to a total p*&^, who now treats her like shit, yet she goes back to him every time.

FACT: If you are nice/polite/respectful towards woman, a large number of them will just walk right over you. It seems like most of you want that neanderthal man, that existed yonks ago, but also someone that "understands" you. WTF!?

that is not a fact in my eyes... i appreciate nice/polite/respectful men, especially given that it is such a rarity. Some men and some women... just dont care about hurting someone else's feelings anymore...

AMEN!

yah, women want a man who is obscene but not heard.

This is very true. My ex had a bad experience with her former boyfriend, and she brought that baggage with her into our relationship.

She would constantly seek re-assurance from me, by asking if I was ever going to treat her the way her ex did.

It got very frustrating - Answering the same questions over and over again multiple times a day.





I really wish that most woman were like toasted and shi-shi, because the reality is that most women like that "neanderthal man".

I've seen it many times and time and time again they girl simply goes back to the abusive, shit-treating guy hoping it will different this time, but it never is.

IMO, there are a lot of nice guys out there and if most girls would simply drop the drama and pretentiousness, they would see for themselves.

AMEN to that.

What pisses me off most is I give it my all, i'm nice, respectful, polite etc. and treat a woman right, only that when things get broken up (from her side cause i'm too good for her or some crap) they seem to walk away like you never existed and next week they back on the bicycle while you try pick your heart up off the floor

There's an old saying:

TREAT HER RUFF, GET THE _ U_ F

Yeah well, here is surprise. I refuse to change who i am. I am what i am, deal with it, or have a fuck off. If a woman comes into your life with the intention of changing it, someones bound to get hurt. And on another note, i refuse to put myself into another situation where i am in it rather for the sake of not being alone, than for being with that person. I got my fingers burnt very badly. They are growing back, and this time i am keeping them.

Hey, I also had a bad experience once. In my case the gf was a psycho, coz she couldn't have been anything else. Things were going along fine with us until one day her so called cousin started smsing me. I gave her cousin the boot and told her to leave me the hell alone. Well, about a half hour later the gf calls and says she heard I was cheating on her with her cousin....I mean WTF? Where did that come from? I asked her what gave her that idea? She said that she got an anonymous phone call and the person told her this. The amazing thing to me was that she would believe a complete stranger over me. I later found out that she used her cousin to set me up so that she could break up with me and not look guilty somehow. I also found out that she was seeing another guy in Durban. I did nothing wrong to deserve this though....was it too hard to tell me to my face that there was someone else? Apart from wasting my time I also got my heart broke. Oh, she called me a while after that and asked me if I was over her and if I wanted to get back together again. I told her to go to HELL in a really nice way but I'm sure she understood what I meant. I don't how girls can go and mess guys around like this and live with the guilt of it all. Anyway, that was an experience that I won't easily forget....I learned that there are some pscho girls out there and I'm gonna think twice before putting my whole heart into a relationship. Well, that's my story!

sometimes no matter how appealing the woman is, its best to walk away.

Yes. I had a fairly difficult one recently. Was real hard, but for now it was the right choice.

I was in a serious relationship last year with the girl of my dreams. After about 8 months the whole relationship went sour. And although I'm over it now, I'm still trying to make sense of the chaos that was left behind. At some stage I really thought that we will be together forever. As fate would have it, this was not meant to be. 4 Months down the line, she is dating someone else and I'm just focused on my studies. All I really learned was that when fate turns your world upside down like that, you know it was not meant to be.

Currently there are no persueable candidates and maybe its better that way, for now.
I wont say that she rejected me, because she's a pshyco or that I didn't have the goods, but we went our seperate ways out of neccesity.

Men are rational thinkers, you can compare a mans brain to linear algebra. You give us input, we produce output related to that input. If you like me, tell me or show me. I can give a response to that.

IMO, woman are very emosional thinkers. When they see a man, they see their future. Wealth, the kids they will have, their house, safety..... That is why woman like it to spend money. They dont care about the financial impact, that is the mans problem.

Plain and simple, men want to know WHY do you want to buy this or WHY do we need new curtains or WHY do you need 30 pairs of shoes. This is because men are born with an X AND a Y (why) chromosome.

All men have the X factor, woman just need to develop the ability to recognise it.

Adieu

That is a very good outlook to have.

After my previous disaster - This is the way to go.



That girl treated you badly, dude.

I know you really like her - but in the end its better that it happenned early on in the relationship when you werent so attached to her.

Just think how crushed you'd be if she pulled this stunt on the eve of your wedding.

I glad you got out - That psycho chick didnt deserve you.

Bi-Polar

My ex-wife was and tried to stab me in the chest with a knife twice and held a gun to my head and said she will kill me.

Over nothing, I didn't even used to do anything and I used to get abused.

Hurt like hell when we divorced, I went through hell because I still loved her.

At the end of the day...... Best damn move ever!!!

Damn straight it was the best move ever, my uncle had a bitch like that, he died by her hand and she got off on a "who you know" deal

Shit that's terrible Wolf!!!!!!

Another few months and who knows yea maybe she would have killed me. Bi Polar people are NOT right in the head!!!!

That sucks bigtime Wolf.



Good thing you got out in time then.



I know exactly what you mean.

I have a case like that in my family. I hope it all works out for everyone in the end.

thats seriously messed up

Feel sorry for the g/f or b/f people with this disorder make them believe all the time that they are the ones F( at )cking up, doesn't matter how much you try.

Hi,

I think this has to be sticky'ed! I have to say that this is the first time I have come across a public discussion regarding this topic - something that I have wondered for many years! Great read.

There are also quite a few articles if you Google search.

According to the "mystery method" (a method designed to pick up women mentioned in the book "the game") the reason women reject is fairly simple. Despite our amazing technological advances humans are pretty much the same physically as they were 50000 years ago when we lived in small tribe communities. According to mystery women will always look for a man who displays "value" indicating alpha male (leader of the tribe/pack) tendicies. This is why women find men with confidence so attractive as its one the attributes of a alpha male. So basically Mystery has the opinion that any guy can attract any women if they display the "alpha male" qualities the particular woman looks for in a man. So if someone gets rejected its because he did not show the right or any alpha males tendicies.

For the record I do not agree with this view and i think human peer bonding is an extremely complex system which i dont think will ever be fully understood. Its jsut interesting to see how different people view the world.

That could actually very well be true.

Oh darn it... Good ol' Gil can't catch a break these days