My twenty year old brother passed away on the 25th of January this year, he wasn't ill nor did he have any reason to be concerned about his health as he was, what we believed to be very healthy.
He experienced breathing difficulties after a session at the gym and his gym partner (a paramedic) took him to a medical institution (their name I can't mention at this stage) Michael was refused entry to the emergency room and my brother was made to stand in line and wait to see a doctor (even though he was turning blue and his body stared swelling up so badly his watch popped open and fell to the floor).
He was never helped (and according to said medical institution he was never there) being the stubborn and hassle free person he was, he insisted that Michael took him back to the gym so he could appologise to the receptionist whom he felt he'd been rude to when she cracked a joke but he just stormed out for in need of air earlier. He said that he'd drive to our GP in his own car once back at the gym.
Michael reluctantly took him back where my brother appologised to the receptionist, walked outside and collapsed. The gym owner resuscitated him four times but it was too late.
The ambulance service located Not even two minutes from the gym arrived 45 minutes later.
Was it just time for him to go?
I find this poem comforting
Remember me when I am gone away
Gone far away into the silent land
When you can no more hold me by the hand
Nor I half turn to go yet turning stay
remember me when no more day by day
You tell me of our future that you planned
Only remember me you understand
It will be late to counsel then or pray
Yet if you should forget me for a while
And afterwards remember , do not grieve
For if the darkness and corruption leave
A vestige of the thoughts I once had
Better by far you should forget and smile
Than you should remember and be sad.
Christina Rosetti
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I feel for you.
There are just to many stories like this these days.
About a year ago a friend's wife went for a very minor opperation, she fell into a coma on the opperating table, after she was only supossed to get local anestetic, she got weaker every day, a month later she died, a Healhty 30 year old mother of twn died for no reason, no one could (or wanted to) explain what went wrong, the hospital cost for a family was in excess of R1million, the medical aid didnt coveb that much.
If somond could only explain what went wrong it all could have been so different.
There are just to many stories like this these days.
About a year ago a friend's wife went for a very minor opperation, she fell into a coma on the opperating table, after she was only supossed to get local anestetic, she got weaker every day, a month later she died, a Healhty 30 year old mother of twn died for no reason, no one could (or wanted to) explain what went wrong, the hospital cost for a family was in excess of R1million, the medical aid didnt coveb that much.
If somond could only explain what went wrong it all could have been so different.
8 years ago, my girlfriend and i were driving home after eating dinner at a restaurant. We had been together for 4 years. I then lived in Tokai (for anyone that knows Cape Town). It was about 10 at night. When we were driving down the main road in Bergvliet, we drove past a dog that was lying in the road. When we drove past the dog we could see that it was still moving, so I stopped and reversed the car so the cars lights would be on the dog.
My girlfriend got out and went to see how the dog was doing. She was about 10 metres in front of the car. As i got out of the car and started walking towards my girlfriend, a car came past me, doing about 100km/h. My girlfriend was kneeling down beside the dog when the car hit her.
The world for me at that moment just went blank. I remember running to her and kneeling down where she was laying. To me, she seemed fine because i could not see any blood or injuries. I knelt down and put my hand under her head to put it on my lap. When i put my hand under her head, my hand sunk into her face. The whole right side of her face and head were gone. I remember her giving one last breath before she died.
My girlfriend got out and went to see how the dog was doing. She was about 10 metres in front of the car. As i got out of the car and started walking towards my girlfriend, a car came past me, doing about 100km/h. My girlfriend was kneeling down beside the dog when the car hit her.
The world for me at that moment just went blank. I remember running to her and kneeling down where she was laying. To me, she seemed fine because i could not see any blood or injuries. I knelt down and put my hand under her head to put it on my lap. When i put my hand under her head, my hand sunk into her face. The whole right side of her face and head were gone. I remember her giving one last breath before she died.
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speechless 
man I feel for both of you. I would have died inside right there
speechless man I feel for both of you. I would have died inside right there
Well I for one can tell you that this country is up to shit! no matter how much money you have the doc's and nurses and hosptial staff will give jack shit to save someone dying in front of them!
Hiccupsie My father passed away in a similar situation, he had an anerusym the ambulance refused to come pick him up because it was in the middle of nowhere and when he was finally taken to hospital they refused to admit him due to the fact that he did not have medical aid and at 11pm HTF are we suppose to whip out 50k from our anus to admin him?? They refused to take CC or cheque...
needless to say the nurses treated him as he was dead and the doc that did the op. Just kept saying no he's gone forget about it...
Hiccupsie My father passed away in a similar situation, he had an anerusym the ambulance refused to come pick him up because it was in the middle of nowhere and when he was finally taken to hospital they refused to admit him due to the fact that he did not have medical aid and at 11pm HTF are we suppose to whip out 50k from our anus to admin him?? They refused to take CC or cheque...
needless to say the nurses treated him as he was dead and the doc that did the op. Just kept saying no he's gone forget about it...
Shit I can't actually believe this, if something like that were to happen to someone I know I think I would kill the doc responsible. Sorry to hear about all your losses
I’m so sorry to hear about all of your losses. I wasn’t sure whether to post this cause I’m a very private person (believe or not) not a week goes by that people don’t look at me and go ‘sheesh lady but you’re headstrong’ I’ve never worked out whether that’s a good or a bad thing. 
Fishfly if it ‘helps’ any, we belong to a Very comprehensive medical aid and whilst Michael was on the way to the medical institution with my brother, my mom called them and said that someone was bringing my brother there, she explained his symptoms and gave them our file details so they were supposed to be ‘expecting’ him. When my mom arrived there, thinking he would be there, our file was lying at the top of the pile. She waited and asked around (they all denied him being there) not knowing what was going on till eventually my dad turned up having to tell her that my brother had died on the floor next to his car at the gym.
Wolf, did the family ever take any steps against the hospital? Computeralien I will send you a pm if you don’t mind.
I don’t think that any of us will ever be able to Really explain to people how going through something like that feels. It changed me and my life forever, I lost some of my closest friends after my brother passed away cause I was So angry at life, myself, said medical institution and everyone I know… it was like I needed them to make some of the pain to go away yet whenever they’d even try and talk to me about what happened I’d go completely cold on them saying that I’m trying not to think about it All the time and preferred not to discuss it. And now that I have an intense need to talk about it, people who are still around either avoid the subject or change it whenever I want to talk, that’s my fault I guess. People moved on, life doesn’t wait for any of us.
I don’t think I ‘dealt’ with what happened very well, I used to get annoyed with my mom for constantly crying and even once told her that “focusing on only That won’t bring him back so just be stronger and carry on with life” I feel ashamed of that behaviour now. A few evenings ago Rush and I had an argument in the car and suddenly it was like I completely ‘tuned out’ from what he was saying and someone threw cold water into my face yelling “YOUR BROTHER IS GONE MILLA”. Only now am I starting to realize that he’s not just on holiday or living out of town (things I use dto tell myself when I got panicked) he is Gone… When he died I was in shock a few days, I cried but helped with the practicalities more than focusing on the reality of it – we paid for a private pathologist to do a post mortem examination on him as the state pathologist concluded that my brother had had a heart attack so there was no reason to expect any unnatural causes. We needed to know how a healthy twenty year old can collapse and die and its called ‘natural’?
No one ever tells you how it’s going to feel or what you should and shouldn’t do when these things happen… They asked me whether I wanted to help carry the coffin and I said ‘I didn’t know’ They asked if I wanted to say anything at his funeral - ‘I don’t know’ They asked if I wanted to go and ‘say goodbye’ to him at the crematorium - I don’t know’… I didn’t know.
My mom, my grandparents, his girlfriend, his best friend and I all wrote him letters that were read out during the service. I am greatful to have had that opportunity to say things to him that I never had or never could, it was like ‘making peace’ with him in front of everyone. We had had a very turbulent relationship so there were many unsaid things.
I still don’t know whether my going to ‘say goodbye’ at the crematorium was the right thing to do… I don’t think there is or was a ‘right’ thing to do, I felt like if I had one last chance to be with him, I had to take it, so I did. I remember feeling faint and my body going very warm when I walked into the room, When I saw him I had an incredible urge to open up the top piece of the coffin so he could breathe! I Hated feeling so utterly heart broken, angry and helpless.
Uhm… I’ll continue another time
Fishfly if it ‘helps’ any, we belong to a Very comprehensive medical aid and whilst Michael was on the way to the medical institution with my brother, my mom called them and said that someone was bringing my brother there, she explained his symptoms and gave them our file details so they were supposed to be ‘expecting’ him. When my mom arrived there, thinking he would be there, our file was lying at the top of the pile. She waited and asked around (they all denied him being there) not knowing what was going on till eventually my dad turned up having to tell her that my brother had died on the floor next to his car at the gym.
Wolf, did the family ever take any steps against the hospital? Computeralien I will send you a pm if you don’t mind.
I don’t think that any of us will ever be able to Really explain to people how going through something like that feels. It changed me and my life forever, I lost some of my closest friends after my brother passed away cause I was So angry at life, myself, said medical institution and everyone I know… it was like I needed them to make some of the pain to go away yet whenever they’d even try and talk to me about what happened I’d go completely cold on them saying that I’m trying not to think about it All the time and preferred not to discuss it. And now that I have an intense need to talk about it, people who are still around either avoid the subject or change it whenever I want to talk, that’s my fault I guess. People moved on, life doesn’t wait for any of us.
I don’t think I ‘dealt’ with what happened very well, I used to get annoyed with my mom for constantly crying and even once told her that “focusing on only That won’t bring him back so just be stronger and carry on with life” I feel ashamed of that behaviour now. A few evenings ago Rush and I had an argument in the car and suddenly it was like I completely ‘tuned out’ from what he was saying and someone threw cold water into my face yelling “YOUR BROTHER IS GONE MILLA”. Only now am I starting to realize that he’s not just on holiday or living out of town (things I use dto tell myself when I got panicked) he is Gone… When he died I was in shock a few days, I cried but helped with the practicalities more than focusing on the reality of it – we paid for a private pathologist to do a post mortem examination on him as the state pathologist concluded that my brother had had a heart attack so there was no reason to expect any unnatural causes. We needed to know how a healthy twenty year old can collapse and die and its called ‘natural’?
No one ever tells you how it’s going to feel or what you should and shouldn’t do when these things happen… They asked me whether I wanted to help carry the coffin and I said ‘I didn’t know’ They asked if I wanted to say anything at his funeral - ‘I don’t know’ They asked if I wanted to go and ‘say goodbye’ to him at the crematorium - I don’t know’… I didn’t know.
My mom, my grandparents, his girlfriend, his best friend and I all wrote him letters that were read out during the service. I am greatful to have had that opportunity to say things to him that I never had or never could, it was like ‘making peace’ with him in front of everyone. We had had a very turbulent relationship so there were many unsaid things.
I still don’t know whether my going to ‘say goodbye’ at the crematorium was the right thing to do… I don’t think there is or was a ‘right’ thing to do, I felt like if I had one last chance to be with him, I had to take it, so I did. I remember feeling faint and my body going very warm when I walked into the room, When I saw him I had an incredible urge to open up the top piece of the coffin so he could breathe! I Hated feeling so utterly heart broken, angry and helpless.
Uhm… I’ll continue another time
Hiccupsie I understand where you are coming from... still now reading your post about this entire incident makes me break down and 
it's a matter of what did I do to deserve losing someone so close....
I dealt with things so wrongly, I "ran away" from the family, home, responsibilities, just to avoid having to deal with the issue at hand...
And I still regret the decisions that I've made up to now, yet it's too late to turn back the time
it's a matter of what did I do to deserve losing someone so close....I dealt with things so wrongly, I "ran away" from the family, home, responsibilities, just to avoid having to deal with the issue at hand...
And I still regret the decisions that I've made up to now, yet it's too late to turn back the time
Also lost a brother a few years ago and my Gramps 2 months ago,June 1st,kinda makes me sick inside reading what happened to you hiccupsie,Fishfly,alien....
Is it me or do any of you guys get pissed when someone says those standard line "I know how you feel.."
Ugh....hate that line.
My condolences guys.
Is it me or do any of you guys get pissed when someone says those standard line "I know how you feel.."
Ugh....hate that line.
My condolences guys.
My Dad died of cancer a while back. I got sick of people saying they were sorry, nobody ever said they knew how I felt, but if they did I would have been pissed.
I suddenly feel very selfish for some reason after reading these posts.
I offer my sincerest condolensces to you all.
I offer my sincerest condolensces to you all.
The reason this site exists today is because I lost a loved one. Many people know that.
I dont want to visit history again but the basics was that my cousin who was a pc format reader was shot dead 5 years ago and I started up the original planetmars website in his honour.
I still think about him often. and I miss him terribly at times too as he was the brother I never had, my mentor, teacher, best friend & partner in crime. He was 29 when he died leaving behind a young fiance and a young son.
The mere thought of him burns like acid indigestion.
His passing is slightly different to some of the stories listed here because he was a victim of a very violent crime so the feelings I have are bitterness and anger as well as stupification trying to comprehend the loss of a young man's life.
I then went on to lose my grandmother soon after Ricky, also having lost my grandfather a year prior to Ricky.
In the past couple of months, getting to know hiccupsie while we been dating, and understanding her pain and anguish has made me revisit my own demons and made me relive the events surrounding Ricky's death.
Its actually helped me more than she knows or realises, thank you my baby I love you more than you can ever guess.
Cherish those who you have who are still alive, dont wait till someone is dead before you buy them flowers. Dont cry for them after they are dead but rejoice for they are alive now , make sure you get them to know and understand how you feel about them now and not when its too late. Celebrate life people
I drove like a mad man today to get to my mother after I found out she had been attacked at home. And on the way all I could think of was how much I regretted not making more of an effort to spend more time with her as she grows older. I held onto her very tightly.
There are old friends that I wish let know that I'll always be here for them, forgiving and waiting to make em laugh, you know who you are, I'd just like to be able to just shake off any hostilies.
I have a stone in the pit of my stomach thinking of how close I came to nearly losing yet another loved one today.
Go hug your mother tonight if you can, if not give her a call and tell her that you love her.
I dont want to visit history again but the basics was that my cousin who was a pc format reader was shot dead 5 years ago and I started up the original planetmars website in his honour.
I still think about him often. and I miss him terribly at times too as he was the brother I never had, my mentor, teacher, best friend & partner in crime. He was 29 when he died leaving behind a young fiance and a young son.
The mere thought of him burns like acid indigestion.
His passing is slightly different to some of the stories listed here because he was a victim of a very violent crime so the feelings I have are bitterness and anger as well as stupification trying to comprehend the loss of a young man's life.
I then went on to lose my grandmother soon after Ricky, also having lost my grandfather a year prior to Ricky.
In the past couple of months, getting to know hiccupsie while we been dating, and understanding her pain and anguish has made me revisit my own demons and made me relive the events surrounding Ricky's death.
Its actually helped me more than she knows or realises, thank you my baby I love you more than you can ever guess.
Cherish those who you have who are still alive, dont wait till someone is dead before you buy them flowers. Dont cry for them after they are dead but rejoice for they are alive now , make sure you get them to know and understand how you feel about them now and not when its too late. Celebrate life people
I drove like a mad man today to get to my mother after I found out she had been attacked at home. And on the way all I could think of was how much I regretted not making more of an effort to spend more time with her as she grows older. I held onto her very tightly.
There are old friends that I wish let know that I'll always be here for them, forgiving and waiting to make em laugh, you know who you are, I'd just like to be able to just shake off any hostilies.
I have a stone in the pit of my stomach thinking of how close I came to nearly losing yet another loved one today.
Go hug your mother tonight if you can, if not give her a call and tell her that you love her.
Rush,hope all is well with your mum.
With me it gotten to the stage where if i get a call late at night on the house phone or cell phone I get a plunging feeling in my gut.
Sometime even the smallest most insignificant thing like a smell or a sound will trigger a flashback.
With me it gotten to the stage where if i get a call late at night on the house phone or cell phone I get a plunging feeling in my gut.
Sometime even the smallest most insignificant thing like a smell or a sound will trigger a flashback.
She's cool, thanks for asking. Although she has to go onto an antiretral after she bit the one dudes hand so hard she crunched bone and loostened 3 of her own teeth in the process. my mother put up a helluva fight.
QUOTE(tech phil)
Is it me or do any of you guys get pissed when someone says those standard line "I know how you feel.."
was that directed at me?
QUOTE(Fishfly @ Aug 2 2005, 02:36 AM)
QUOTE(tech phil)
Is it me or do any of you guys get pissed when someone says those standard line "I know how you feel.."
was that directed at me?
Huh?.....no,no,don't be so paranoid Fishfly
why would it be aimed at you ?I talking in general,there is always someone who comes up to you when you're at your lowest and says either "I know how you feel",or "I'm sorry".......and then goes on and on that you just want to strangle them.
QUOTE(W( at )RP( at )T}{ @ Aug 1 2005, 03:18 PM)
Shit I can't actually believe this, if something like that were to happen to someone I know I think I would kill the doc responsible. Sorry to hear about all your losses
I agree, i think i'd make them suffer as well.
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Wolf, did the family ever take any steps against the hospital?
They tried to, but as soon as their laywer contacted the doctor, he threatend to take all their possesions.
They didnt realy have a case because no one could or would tell them what happend, cause off death was only stated as "Viral infection".
QUOTE(RurouniKenshin @ Aug 1 2005, 09:30 PM)
I suddenly feel very selfish for some reason after reading these posts.
I offer my sincerest condolensces to you all.
I offer my sincerest condolensces to you all.
Thank you RurouniKenshin. That's the irony of it all I think... I was feeling so alone when I made that post and thought that I couldn't possibly feel any worse, then I read the other stories. And I was greatful that 'at least' my brother didn't die in front of me, at least we Know what caused his death and wasn't left wondering, at least I have someone in my life that knows how it feels and always tries his best to understand...
SO true when they say "during the toughest times, always remember that Someone out there is far worse off that yourself"
Thank you to everyone who was brave enough to respond to this post.
*cries* i wish i could take everyone's pain away ... im so sorry you guys
yeah... time has passed and yet I still feel like shit about the things I've done
i really really feel for you guys, im terribly sorry!
QUOTE(Rush @ Aug 1 2005, 09:35 PM)
The reason this site exists today is because I lost a loved one. Many people know that.
I dont want to visit history again but the basics was that my cousin who was a pc format reader was shot dead 5 years ago and I started up the original planetmars website in his honour.
I still think about him often. and I miss him terribly at times too as he was the brother I never had, my mentor, teacher, best friend & partner in crime. He was 29 when he died leaving behind a young fiance and a young son.
The mere thought of him burns like acid indigestion.
His passing is slightly different to some of the stories listed here because he was a victim of a very violent crime so the feelings I have are bitterness and anger as well as stupification trying to comprehend the loss of a young man's life.
I then went on to lose my grandmother soon after Ricky, also having lost my grandfather a year prior to Ricky.
In the past couple of months, getting to know hiccupsie while we been dating, and understanding her pain and anguish has made me revisit my own demons and made me relive the events surrounding Ricky's death.
Its actually helped me more than she knows or realises, thank you my baby I love you more than you can ever guess.
Cherish those who you have who are still alive, dont wait till someone is dead before you buy them flowers. Dont cry for them after they are dead but rejoice for they are alive now , make sure you get them to know and understand how you feel about them now and not when its too late. Celebrate life people
I drove like a mad man today to get to my mother after I found out she had been attacked at home. And on the way all I could think of was how much I regretted not making more of an effort to spend more time with her as she grows older. I held onto her very tightly.
There are old friends that I wish let know that I'll always be here for them, forgiving and waiting to make em laugh, you know who you are, I'd just like to be able to just shake off any hostilies.
I have a stone in the pit of my stomach thinking of how close I came to nearly losing yet another loved one today.
Go hug your mother tonight if you can, if not give her a call and tell her that you love her.
I dont want to visit history again but the basics was that my cousin who was a pc format reader was shot dead 5 years ago and I started up the original planetmars website in his honour.
I still think about him often. and I miss him terribly at times too as he was the brother I never had, my mentor, teacher, best friend & partner in crime. He was 29 when he died leaving behind a young fiance and a young son.
The mere thought of him burns like acid indigestion.
His passing is slightly different to some of the stories listed here because he was a victim of a very violent crime so the feelings I have are bitterness and anger as well as stupification trying to comprehend the loss of a young man's life.
I then went on to lose my grandmother soon after Ricky, also having lost my grandfather a year prior to Ricky.
In the past couple of months, getting to know hiccupsie while we been dating, and understanding her pain and anguish has made me revisit my own demons and made me relive the events surrounding Ricky's death.
Its actually helped me more than she knows or realises, thank you my baby I love you more than you can ever guess.
Cherish those who you have who are still alive, dont wait till someone is dead before you buy them flowers. Dont cry for them after they are dead but rejoice for they are alive now , make sure you get them to know and understand how you feel about them now and not when its too late. Celebrate life people
I drove like a mad man today to get to my mother after I found out she had been attacked at home. And on the way all I could think of was how much I regretted not making more of an effort to spend more time with her as she grows older. I held onto her very tightly.
There are old friends that I wish let know that I'll always be here for them, forgiving and waiting to make em laugh, you know who you are, I'd just like to be able to just shake off any hostilies.
I have a stone in the pit of my stomach thinking of how close I came to nearly losing yet another loved one today.
Go hug your mother tonight if you can, if not give her a call and tell her that you love her.
Thanks Rush
You bring it home and make alot of us realise how much more we should be doing. I myself am going to go and search for flowers for my
tonight. I love her more than anything and would never wish anything bad to happen to her sometimes I should do more to show her how much I love and care for her in my heart she is everything to me and always will be.
First off... let me express my deepest sympathy for all of your losses...
I lost my grandma 5 years ago.... on my 16th birthday... She had been ill for as long as i can remember her... we had to rush her to the hospital two days earlier... the doctor said she was doing fine, he was sure she would recover as she did before... she didnt... she died despite the fact she was on the oxygen mask, despite my prayers...
She was more than my grandma... she was my mother. I was born three months premature.. stayed in hospital for two months.. and by the time i was released by mom had to go back to work.. bills had to be paid... and my grandma took over. She raised me... loved me... i am me because of her.. its a struggle writing this... trying to not cry anymore than i already am... because i miss her so much...
i know she is at rest know... that knowledge doesnt take away the feelings though..
i feel her around me all the time, she visits me in my dreams often and in times of need... i can swear she is there, lying with me, her arms around me, hand on my head as she always did... that is my comfort, knowing she is here, feeling her with me....
i celebrate her life by being who she taught me to be.. living how she taught me to live and loving like she loved me... unconditionally.
I lost my grandma 5 years ago.... on my 16th birthday... She had been ill for as long as i can remember her... we had to rush her to the hospital two days earlier... the doctor said she was doing fine, he was sure she would recover as she did before... she didnt... she died despite the fact she was on the oxygen mask, despite my prayers...
She was more than my grandma... she was my mother. I was born three months premature.. stayed in hospital for two months.. and by the time i was released by mom had to go back to work.. bills had to be paid... and my grandma took over. She raised me... loved me... i am me because of her.. its a struggle writing this... trying to not cry anymore than i already am... because i miss her so much...
i know she is at rest know... that knowledge doesnt take away the feelings though..
i feel her around me all the time, she visits me in my dreams often and in times of need... i can swear she is there, lying with me, her arms around me, hand on my head as she always did... that is my comfort, knowing she is here, feeling her with me....
i celebrate her life by being who she taught me to be.. living how she taught me to live and loving like she loved me... unconditionally.
Treshi
I'm sure your grandma is with you, as is all of our loved ones. I won't start off a whole religious debate but I believe that in the Spirit World they are very aware of our regrets, pain and the difficulties we experience in living without them.
If you are indeed living your life as she would have hoped for you to do then be proud as I'm sure she is of you
I'm sure your grandma is with you, as is all of our loved ones. I won't start off a whole religious debate but I believe that in the Spirit World they are very aware of our regrets, pain and the difficulties we experience in living without them.
If you are indeed living your life as she would have hoped for you to do then be proud as I'm sure she is of you
Totally agree on that.Quite often i smell my brother (shit it sounds weird)......I might be in the lounge or in the car and a scent of peanut butter fills a spot.It brings a smile every time,and i know it's him.(i don't eat peanut butter,it's not even in the house)
They are around us all the time,they protect us or watch over us.That's for damn sure.
They are around us all the time,they protect us or watch over us.That's for damn sure.
hmmm tech phil's got a :ghost: in the house?
that give me a good idea for a poll...
has anyone ever had any dreams about the one that's passed on? I myself have had a few of these...
that give me a good idea for a poll...
has anyone ever had any dreams about the one that's passed on? I myself have had a few of these...
QUOTE(Fishfly @ Aug 4 2005, 10:18 AM)
hmmm tech phil's got a :ghost: in the house?
that give me a good idea for a poll...
has anyone ever had any dreams about the one that's passed on? I myself have had a few of these...
that give me a good idea for a poll...
has anyone ever had any dreams about the one that's passed on? I myself have had a few of these...
Good idea.
I have had. A close friend of mine was killed in a car accident, and I had a dream about him a month or two later. We were at his funeral, but he was standing next to me, talking to me. He was holding a red rose (which is what I threw onto his coffin). And when I woke up I really felt his presence, it felt like he was in the room with me.
After my gran died, I had a really short dream where I was sleeping and I woke up. She was standing at the end of my bed smiling at me. And then I woke up in real life.
They were really short, almost arb dreams, but at the same time they gave reassurance that they were still there for me.
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Good idea.
I have had. A close friend of mine was killed in a car accident, and I had a dream about him a month or two later. We were at his funeral, but he was standing next to me, talking to me. He was holding a red rose (which is what I threw onto his coffin). And when I woke up I really felt his presence, it felt like he was in the room with me.
After my gran died, I had a really short dream where I was sleeping and I woke up. She was standing at the end of my bed smiling at me. And then I woke up in real life.
I have had. A close friend of mine was killed in a car accident, and I had a dream about him a month or two later. We were at his funeral, but he was standing next to me, talking to me. He was holding a red rose (which is what I threw onto his coffin). And when I woke up I really felt his presence, it felt like he was in the room with me.
After my gran died, I had a really short dream where I was sleeping and I woke up. She was standing at the end of my bed smiling at me. And then I woke up in real life.
Wanna start a topic? I dunno where to post this
QUOTE(Fishfly @ Aug 4 2005, 11:18 AM)
hmmm tech phil's got a :ghost: in the house?
that give me a good idea for a poll...
has anyone ever had any dreams about the one that's passed on? I myself have had a few of these...
that give me a good idea for a poll...
has anyone ever had any dreams about the one that's passed on? I myself have had a few of these...
It's no ghost you peanut,maybe if more people open up their senses beyond the 5 that we were given they'd realise there's a lot more out there than what we know.
Our loved ones/friends/pets that have moved on visit us,or are around us all the time.Just because we can't see them does not mean we can't sense them.
^^That makes no "sense" to me 
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It's no ghost you peanut,maybe if more people open up their senses beyond the 5 that we were given they'd realise there's a lot more out there than what we know.
I was only joking no need to take my head off
QUOTE(Tech_Phil @ Aug 3 2005, 08:41 PM)
Totally agree on that.Quite often i smell my brother (shit it sounds weird)......I might be in the lounge or in the car and a scent of peanut butter fills a spot.It brings a smile every time,and i know it's him.(i don't eat peanut butter,it's not even in the house)
They are around us all the time,they protect us or watch over us.That's for damn sure.
They are around us all the time,they protect us or watch over us.That's for damn sure.
Tec_Phil Absototalutely true
If only more people would 'allow' themselves the privilege to even just investigating this subject further
I think that you can never really make people understand the anguish and hell that a person goes through when they loose somebody that they love. There are obviously different losses that a person goes through from loosing a family member to loosing a child to loosing a wife or husband or bf or gf. The levels of pain are different
When my gf died, the pain and suffering that i went through, i would not wish that on anybody, not in a million years. I even went so far as asking an attorney to maybe make a deal with the courts that they could maybe issue some special court order that would allow me to keep her head. To some of you that may seem sick. But, when you realise that you truly truly love somebody and when you have resigned yourself to know within your heart that this is the person that you are going to spend the rest of your life with and that you are never ever going to see or be with this spirit that brings you everything that you need in life..............
I am not even ashamed to tell you guys that during a 2 year period after that, i tried to commit suicide 4 times. Didn't get that right though, had other people around that loved me too much to allow that to happen.
Okay well, tears are coming now so maybe more on the subject another time
When my gf died, the pain and suffering that i went through, i would not wish that on anybody, not in a million years. I even went so far as asking an attorney to maybe make a deal with the courts that they could maybe issue some special court order that would allow me to keep her head. To some of you that may seem sick. But, when you realise that you truly truly love somebody and when you have resigned yourself to know within your heart that this is the person that you are going to spend the rest of your life with and that you are never ever going to see or be with this spirit that brings you everything that you need in life..............
I am not even ashamed to tell you guys that during a 2 year period after that, i tried to commit suicide 4 times. Didn't get that right though, had other people around that loved me too much to allow that to happen.
Okay well, tears are coming now so maybe more on the subject another time
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I dont want to visit history again but the basics was that my cousin who was a pc format reader was shot dead 5 years ago and I started up the original planetmars website in his honour.
Wow... so this site has quite a history... sorry for all of yr losses.
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I am not even ashamed to tell you guys that during a 2 year period after that, i tried to commit suicide 4 times. Didn't get that right though, had other people around that loved me too much to allow that to happen.
Yup... it's the ones that are still here to pull us through the tough times that count.... just remember, the one's you love will have to deal with 2 deaths if you take your own life... and a suicide, for anyone, is not an easy thing to deal with.
My best friend shot himself two years ago after going through some money trouble. We rowed a double together and were training at the time to go for the U23 National Squad... so I was practically living with the guy. His death hit me hard... I stopped going to church, and I stopped competing at that level as a result.
Suicide is the worst way a person can go... I was so angry at him for putting everyone who knew him through that... I hated him for months and didn't even want to go to his memorial service.
You've probably heard this suicide thing all before... just my two cents worth.
Later guys... and smile
we're all here still!
Ive had just about enough of truck drivers. Last year I lost a friend to a truck that hit him at an intersection. Last week I nearly got taken out by a truck crossing lanes, and didnt check his blindspot. I had to quickly move into the emergency lane.
Yesterday a friend of mine got hit by a truck which didnt see her. She was so young, and now she is gone.
"Her name was Subiya, and this is my tribute to her..."
I realize these truck drivers have a hard life on the road. But I really dont understand why there allowed to drive under such strenuous conditions.
Who can gurantee out safety against these ever increasing threats to human life???
Yesterday a friend of mine got hit by a truck which didnt see her. She was so young, and now she is gone.
"Her name was Subiya, and this is my tribute to her..."
I realize these truck drivers have a hard life on the road. But I really dont understand why there allowed to drive under such strenuous conditions.
Who can gurantee out safety against these ever increasing threats to human life???
Sorry for your loss mate...
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