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Fishfly
Hi Lets get this discussion underway yet again... Looks like it's a different year and Arsenal yet again has a home match after the first few tough Champions League match...

What are your bets this year?

What are your thoughts about the amount Chealsea spent on new recruits?

Do you think Edwin van der Sar can be man utd's saviour?

How does Gerrard staying at Liverpool going to help?

Any Chance that Liverpool going to maintain the Champions League Title this season?

Does Arsenal have a chance after loosing Patrick Viera to Juve?

Will Park Ji sung be a replacement for Ryan Giggs?

P.S These are the only teams that I have a interest in.... feel free to add additional comments or players etc

Lets kick this season off...
cyfermaster
Wigan don't get relegated smile.gif

Chelsea are spending less this year I think.... BUT clubs are now upping the prices on players when Chelsea show an interest... because they know there is moolah there!

Don't care about Man U.. Wigan better tongue.gif

Liverpool need Gerard, but he may not be the only good player there now... Figo... Can gerard perform with Figo in the team?

No Liverpool won't win the CL this year.

Yes Arsenal have a chance... they have a lot of good youth players. But Wigan better... tongue.gif

Don't care about Man U... oh wait I said that.

Go WIGAN GO clap.gif
capn
One word for you boys, NEWCASTLE!!!!!
cyfermaster
One word for you then SHEARER... without him they are nothing. tongue.gif They gonig to box between each other some more this year? sorry, that isn't very nice of me now is it...
Gitano
Even though my confidence levels in this respect are almost 0,

LIVERPOOL!!!

I really do hope that we can do something this year. Champions league, I hope, but I dont think so.

Unfortunately, even though I do like Gerard on the whole, I think he was a bit of a media whore over the whole yes no yes no yes no yes no yes thing with his contract, and Im sure it earned him a few extra pounds at the end of the day.

Chelsea, I dont know. They were the best team around last year, but I dont know how long their form will continue, Jose is obviously optimistic, but Im not so sure.
Tech_Phil
QUOTE(capn @ Jul 20 2005, 08:31 PM)
One word for you boys, NEWCASTLE!!!!!
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Souness.........first manager of the season to be shown the door
Heir_of_Isildur
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Souness.........first manager of the season to be shown the door


good call... apparently he's a real ass-hole in the locker room.

liverpool winning the CL... oh yes, i thought that was a nightmare (really - i'm sure that nobody can believe that - happen again: the sky will fall on our heads)

chelsea are going mad... 21mil for Wright Phillips? insane.

they're going after that dutch guy for >30 mil... stop the insanity

Giggs = greatest contributor to MUFC since cantona (and maybe better than him)

i think arsenal will be fine without vieira.

i think we'll see man utd, arsenal and chelsea on top for most of the season (perhaps one of them will get off to a bad start), with one or two teams performing well but burning out after christmas.
cyfermaster
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liverpool winning the CL... oh yes, i thought that was a nightmare (really - i'm sure that nobody can believe that - happen again: the sky will fall on our heads)


They can't. Nobody else will marry Charles if he gets divorced again... Don't think the pope will die too soon. There is too much they are relying on to win the CL... tongue.gif
capn
Did I mention Newcastle? UP NEWCASTLE
Fishfly
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Souness.........first manager of the season to be shown the door
HAHAHAHHA lol.gif

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Wigan don't get relegated
I think they won't make it this season tongue.gif

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One word for you then SHEARER... without him they are nothing.  They gonig to box between each other some more this year? sorry, that isn't very nice of me now is it...
I think shearer is too old now... he's gonna slow down so maybe next season they'll be relagated tongue.gif

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Liverpool need Gerard, but he may not be the only good player there now... Figo... Can gerard perform with Figo in the team?
Liverp00l bought figo? that's gonna be tough

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1-7-2005 PD  PT 

Newcastle 0  0 
Portsmouth 0  0 
Sunderland 0  0 
Tottenham 0  0 
West Brom 0  0 
West Ham 0  0 
Wigan 0  0


See wigan's position in the league? they gonna be there for the rest of the season tongue.gif
Tech_Phil
Figo is off to Inter......

Fulham look set for the drop unfortunately unless they buy some decent players.......which with their budget will not happen.

Man United hunting Ballack,looks like he wants to get out of Germany.Being a Man U fan I think Van Der Sar is the dumbest signing ever,had a few BIG clangers last season (more than Carroll) and at 34 is long in the tooth.Though we have a huge talent in Giuseppe Rossi......amazing striker for his age.

Everton will NOT come close to last years finish in the league,after selling Gravesen they BARELY hung on to 4th...
Areduis
GO CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe spending 21mil for wright phillips was a bit of a silly mood, i was still impressed with the way he played against AC milan. I think chlesea have a huge chance of getting the double. As for liverpool, they were just lucky with the champions league and I dont see them doing much this year. Also hope Portmouth does well and that arsenal see's its ass!!!!!!!!
Fishfly
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Man United hunting Ballack,looks like he wants to get out of Germany.Being a Man U fan I think Van Der Sar is the dumbest signing ever,had a few BIG clangers last season (more than Carroll) and at 34 is long in the tooth.Though we have a huge talent in Giuseppe Rossi......amazing striker for his age.
actually I find that with van der sar's skillz it'll just bring on exp to howard and that other keeper...

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Man United hunting Ballack,looks like he wants to get out of Germany
ballack will be another paul scholes w00t.gif

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I think chlesea have a huge chance odf getting the double

Seriously doubt it... but hey pigs can fly eek.gif
Gitano
QUOTE(Fishfly @ Jul 28 2005, 06:41 PM)
... but hey pigs can fly eek.gif
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Should have seen the fat chick I was sitting next to on the plane last month puke.gif
Fishfly
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Should have seen the fat chick I was sitting next to on the plane last month 
lol.gif

looks like the top 3 teams are doing well in the summer campaign... Man Utd is devasting the opposition biggrin.gif
Heir_of_Isildur
looks like the top 3 teams are doing well in the summer campaign... Man Utd is devasting the opposition


IMHO not the greatest opposition though.

but good for the team in the long run, as long as no one gets hurt...
Tech_Phil
well i'm a Man Utd fan and i've seen their games on their tour of Japan on SS3 and Van Nistelroy can't hit the side of a barn,the last injury he had did something,he's a different player......the last few games of last season he missed a few sitters,and now he's at it again.

Personally I don't see anyone knocking Chelsea off the top,behind them it's the usual suspects.....ManU,Arse,Liverpool.
millennia
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Man Utd is devasting the opposition biggrin.gif

rofl, they lost yesterday, Devastating indeed tongue.gif
Fishfly
Hey my post was for the weeks/games before last nite tongue.gif

but they gonna have a good CP qualifier... I feel sorry for everton for drawing villareal eek.gif
Fishfly
Well well looks like Liverpool made it to the Champions league for this year by winning 2-0 at home and coming out with a aggregrate of 5-1 against Kunasa...

Wonder what this will mean for their league performances tongue.gif

I see arsenal is playing chealsea in some charity cup this sunday. Gonna be a cracker of a game
cyfermaster
So Man U may be getting Owen... /ponders that....

It should be a good game indeed trout... give us an idea of what the league is going to be like...
Fishfly
nah man utd gonna buy ballack... they need someone to replace Roy Keane... Ballack will be a good addition to the squad w00t.gif
Heir_of_Isildur
owen will not go to Utd *prays*

ballack will own at Utd, hopefully things start happening and Utd make some big acquisitions
millennia
Ballack will only be going to old trafford in 2006 tongue.gif
Fishfly
Well as long as ballack is there! they will become a gr8 attacking team w00t.gif
Tech_Phil
QUOTE(Tech_Phil @ Jul 20 2005, 11:35 PM)
QUOTE(capn @ Jul 20 2005, 08:31 PM)
One word for you boys, NEWCASTLE!!!!!
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Souness.........first manager of the season to be shown the door
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REMEMBER THIS kiddies......

Remember it well............renske.gif
Badavis
GO GUNNERS!!!1 biggrin.gif
Tech_Phil
Everton sign Phil Neville......

Thank GOD he's gone!!
Fishfly
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Everton sign Phil Neville......

Thank GOD he's gone!!
NOOOOOOOOOO! NOT phillip Neville crying.gif

oh well now Ballack better come to Man Utd w00t.gif

oh no sad.gif

http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?i...icategoryid=120
Fishfly
looks like kleberson has been sold to bastilk

and Arsenal 1 - 2 Chealsea for this weeks charity shield cup...


Champions League Qualifiers:
Man Utd 3 - 0 Debrecen
Everton 1-2 Villarreal: Tough lesson

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/index?cc=3888
Heir_of_Isildur
phil neville is better than gary neville, but i'm happy to see that sir alex has decided to let him go.

good to see that solskjaer might be able to play soon
Fishfly
And the season gets off to a gr8 start... well for man Utd that is biggrin.gif
Feel sorry for Wigan, Chelsea didn't deserve that win sad.gif

Arsenal 2 - 0 Newcastle

Wigan 0 - 1 Chelsea

Portsmouth 0 - 2 Tottenham

Everton 0 - 2 Man Utd

Sunderland 1 - 3 Charlton

Aston Villa 2 - 2 Bolton

West Ham 3 - 1 Blackburn

Man City 0 - 0 West Brom

Fulham 0 - 0 Birmingham

Middelsborough 0 - 0 Liverpool
Shame p00r liverpool couldnt' beat an eng team...
Heir_of_Isildur
hard to believe that charlton won away from home.

LOL @ liverpool (European champions eh?)

Chelsea vs Arsenal this sunday... gonna be a quick acid test.
cyfermaster
Wigan were unlucky indeed. they are my team for this season. in the premier League that is. biggrin.gif
Fishfly
lets hope chelsea plays like they did tongue.gif
Fishfly
This weeks results:

Man Utd 1 - 0 Aston Villa

Blackburn 2 - 1 Fulham

Liverpool 1 - 0 Sunderland

Tottenham 2 - 0 Middlesbrough

West Brom 2 - 1 Portsmouth

Birmingham 1 - 2 Man City

Bolton 0 - 1 Everton

Chelsea 1 - 0 Arsenal (WTF that's no way to score a goal sad.gif )
Fishfly
I must say this tops the cake for pugh of the year biggrin.gif

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Little Devil
So... People... Who things Wigan we stay top 5 or top 10 till end of season? And what about the come back from Arsenal... and Man unt... They didn't seem to have the best of starts, but they seem to be gaining some form as of late.

Woot woot. Go Gunners!
Heir_of_Isildur
I'm not sure if i've mentioned my thoughts on Wigan here before... but it goes something like this ->

Every season there's a team that performs reall, really well, and pop into the top 3 for a short time. They usually drop down the table because they don't have the player resources and that's just how it goes!

Remember a few years back when Leicester were top of the league at christmas? Everyone was thinking they were super-duper and Peter Taylor was heralded as the next England manager and included in Sven's team... where are Leicester now ???

Bolton were the culprits last season, but have shown some real promise by delivering some consistency this season too.

Good luck to Wigan, they might stick around the top 5 this season because everyone has accepted that Chelsea will walk away with the trophy again sad.gif
Little Devil
Personally, I know Wigan will fall.. Look at their GD... They are winnings games by a goal basically. I know a win is a win... But when it comes to cames against Chelsea, Arsneal, ManU, Liverpool they will need more than 1 goal to win.

Chelsea might slip up... From what I saw on TV, they are not doing to good in the Championship.
millennia
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they are not doing to good in the Championship.

9 points clear is not good? o_O
Fishfly
he prob means the champions league biggrin.gif

but it's a test of strength after xmas... and if ppl like essien is getting injured atm it'll look like chelsea is about to make that fall soon...

and lampard is off form as well as Robben Arjunen
Heir_of_Isildur
They have two teams, both would survive in the league, so IMO they're still the strongest side sad.gif
Fishfly
well I'm surprised that the second team isn't disgruntled yet...
Little Devil
QUOTE(millennia @ Nov 23 2005, 12:54 PM)
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they are not doing to good in the Championship.

9 points clear is not good? o_O
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QUOTE(Fishfly @ Nov 23 2005, 01:47 PM)
he prob means the champions league biggrin.gif
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9 Points is not good... enough.

And yeah, Champions League was what I meant. wink.gif
Badavis
As soon as u thought ManU where getting better they get knocked out the UEFA CL. Arsenal got thumped last weekend 2-0 whilst Thierry went on to break our untouchable record in Group B of UCL by missing his penalty shots. This weekend sees Arsenal take on Newcastle in a game that seems vital if there too regain 2nd..
Fishfly
laugh.gif yeah well you can't blame arsenal or man utd... both teams are trying to rebuild the team via a youth team... chelsea rebuilt their team based on best player money can by... so they have an average age of 27 there

Aresnal has moved their age gap to around 24's while man utd are sitting around 21 biggrin.gif

terrible thing this sad.gif but none the less man utd and arsenal will get back up biggrin.gif
Heir_of_Isildur
Arsenal will be a much bigger threat when they can fill a bigger stadium. I can't remember the stats, but United get lot and lots more money everytime they host a game than the Gunners.
Heir_of_Isildur
Sorry see Wigan sliding sown the table at the moment... but with a negative goal difference, it's not hard to understand why sad.gif

United got a 0-0 at Highbury w00t.gif

Sunderland are good at going down with very little points and coming back up again... any team that loses points against them can consider themselves unlucky.

Chelsea are going to be a big threat in the FA cup this year, they barely have to focus on Premiership sad.gif
cyfermaster
but if they lose focus on the league, they may just lose it. It is highly unlikely that it will happen, but if you lose focus, anything is possible. It has happened before... I think.
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