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aCe
This thread has been born out of the Durban not to stay thread.

It seems as if this might upset some people so I'm gonna start a new thread in fight club were if you get offended you can fuck off somewhere else.

Basically the goverment want to rename a street to Mahatma Gandhi Street.

So I replied saying the following....

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Ummm... You've got to be kidding me.

Do the government even know what Gandhi had to say about them?

He was more racist than white people. He refered to them as K( at )ffirs, called them unclean, lazy and said that indians should not be confused as blacks.

Get a hold of Penn & Teller - Bullshit! - 3x05 - Holier Than Thou.

It will open up your eyes to a lot of so called "saints" like gandhi.


Then blood105 added his brilliant words of wisdom...

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ace: you probably like the smell of shit which is why you persist in talking.


To which my reply was...

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QUOTE(blood105 @ Jun 5 2005, 11:50 PM)
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Do the government even know what Gandhi had to say about them?

He was more racist than white people. He refered to them as K( at )ffirs, called them unclean, lazy and said that indians should not be confused as blacks.


ace: you probably like the smell of shit which is why you persist in talking.
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oh noz! Did I say something bad about the almighty Gandhi?

Get your facts straight before making useless posts.

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Gandhi apologists indulged in gross deception by claiming that Gandhi’s Satyagrah in South Africa was in the defense of the rights of native people. Nothing could be further from truth than this bald lie. How could Gandhi, a diehard supporter of the caste system think of the welfare of African blacks he regarded lower than the Untouchables of India - slightly above the animal level? His Satyagrah was for the better treatment of Indians, who, according to Gandhi were treated the same way as savage Kaffirs (native people) were. In his stay of twenty years in South Africa, he had no social contacts with the Kaffirs, as he did not see any common ground with them in the daily affairs of life. He was horrified when he was lodged with "natives" in the same jail ward. He did not like wearing the same clothes with label "N" born by the natives, nor he liked their food and sharing lavatory with them. It was the jail experience, which brought out his racism in the open. " [racial slur] and Chinese prisoners are wild, murderous and given to immoral ways. Kaffirs are as a general rule uncivilized – the convicts even more so. They are troublesome, very dirty and live almost like animal."


Source

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Addressing a public meeting in Bombay on Sept. 26 1896 (CW II p. 74), Gandhi said:

" Ours is one continued struggle against degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the European, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw k affir, whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then pass his life in indolence and nakedness."


Source

A very simple google search brings up tons more.


My question is how can the goverment name a street after a guy who said things like the above? There is a lot more "dirt" on gandhi and don't even get me started about mother theresa.
Ziggy
Because its good PR. Basically they are trying to associate themselves to a guy who had a reputation of being an awesome guy, so by naming a street after him they are saying, 'Were on the same page as this awesome guy was,' and it looks good to the weepy liberals and ignorant masses who are unaware of Ghandi's disposition towards black people.

Reality is a moot point to poloticians, all they care about is how they can spin it.
Paul
woah sad.gif

no need to get busy with mother theresa sad.gif
aCe
The stuff I mentioned above is only a small sampling of what Gandhi actually stood for and things that he did that currently see Michael Jackson on trial for.
Paul
o_O

conspiring to kidnap a family ????
aCe
more like sleeping with underage girls and administring enemas to them.

I'll write up some stuff on mother theresa later.
Chris_Rooney
The government are probably so ignorant (as with most other things they do) that they wouldn't notice any irony if they did infact rename the street, Mohatma Gandhi.
Simon
I remember reading about Ghandi being a racist. Apparently the people around him tried their best to cover it up.

Didn't look like they had much success.
Relax
Well, thats what I like to refer to as a crock of shit. Basically, theyre embarrasing themselves by supporting someone who hated them....not very smart. Oh, and Simon, your avatar is the coolest thing ive EVER seen...rofl.
BlackRazor
We are only human...to be saint you need a wad of spindoctors, lawyers and a mob with large sticks and rocks. Associate yourselfwith that sort of scum you shine like a diamond in mud biggrin.gif
W@RP@T}{
uncalled for dude.
millennia
This is exactly the reason that the rules are going to be changed for fight club ...

Tell me where exactly any of your above rant has anything to do with the topic at hand? Way to go for the personal attacks Rob dry.gif
hunter
So we can let rip? Sweet

You have become such an ass since your wife left you, sure we can appreciate the fact that it must be exceptionally difficult for you at the moment, but look again and think about the shit you were posting.

Maybe the blame for your break up isnt all at her door... If you act like this IRL then I wouldnt be suprised that she would want to leave you
Carrots
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This will prob be deleted by some random mod too.... all because they still dont get the definition of "fight club" I say if you guys want wussy convos with such restrictions rather call it "debate club" or something gay like that.


I am not a fan of deleting posts, but if someone was dumb enough to make me mod, this would get deleted....

There was not 1 thing posted in this thread in the last 2 days even remotely positive, or that needed to be said....

Yes, SS has double standards and ace sucks.... thats why we are V9 and not SS.
Personal attacks like the one above spoils the atmosphere imo. This is f#edup!
millennia
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Personal attacks like the one above spoils the atmosphere imo. This is f#edup!

Which ones Carrots? His or yours? dry.gif
hunter
Mine more than likely, since I am not bashing aCe or SS
Carrots
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Yes, SS has double standards and ace sucks.... thats why we are V9 and not SS.


mmm, I should have clarified this statement more....

What I meant by this is it is no use to bitch and moan about what goes on in other forums. I personally have no problem with SS or Ace. I dont actively post there, because the job deserves some time too. tongue.gif

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Yes, SS has double standards and ace sucks.... thats why we are V9 and not SS.


This was meant as a critique on WP's post.....

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Personal attacks like the one above spoils the atmosphere imo. This is f#edup!


This was meant as a critique on Hunters' post....

hunter
And his personal attack on ace?

Ok wait nm that one, was it really necessary to attack aces partner? What does she have to do with it?

but guess its all ok coz SS is the "enemy" right?

Carrots
Oh, and yes, like 99% of the people on earth, I am not 100% objective...

I have mocked SS's practices in other posts.

Yes, yes, yes..... there are a lot of things wrong with WP's post....

and yes, " SS is the enemy", that is why attacks on SS, ace, etc are more OK in my book. Please note : MORE OK, not OK. Like theft is more OK than murder...

I am biassed, and I admit it. One of the reasons most V9 members dont like SS is because of the bitching and moaning and fighting between members.

Will V9 follow the same path? If this post is anything to go by, it will.
millennia
lol

The infighting started here yonks before you even joined wink.gif

It just happened to carry over to SS along with most of the members. Only difference is that ppl get banned for being dumasses on SS...
W@RP@T}{
I'm sorry that I get pissed off when Ace can simply say whatever he wants and tell people whatever he wants. When I bring up a statement that he made himself and question it due to the nature I was banned and had multiple posts deleted in Fight Club at SS where anything goes for a select few and then everything else gets deleted.

Hunter, you don't know me, don't know what i'm going through, don't know whats happened after my few posts on the subject. Words on the internet are just that, you've never met me don't know how I work, don't have a clue on my personality IRL as you say it. Saying stuff like i'm not surprised your wife left you is more of a personal assault than anything I have said. My personality I portray on the net might not be anything like the one I have IRL.

You don't know her, or her family. Currently I still stay 75KM's from work in my house that's 500M from hers. Every week her father will rock up with a bunch of guys and sit at my gate in the morning when I open the door he drives off, her brother has also done this twice? I mean WTF? do they think they are intimidating me? I have no idea what they are trying to pull. It so worked out that her father got his workers to try break into my house???? I cannot even comprehend the mentality involved. That and she packs up and goes and then slams me with a summons that demands 30K in cash and costs of her lawyers for leaving me?

She has stolen over 60K of stuff from me, stolen 3 dogs and a cat, put restraining orders against me. Had her buddies from the cop shop come visit me and threaten me where they have been in the community for over 20Years and I have absolutely noone I know there.

All the while while I drive my hour + in traffic everyday, work on average over 10 hours and then drive an hour home to an empty house to feed the two dogs I have left and try pay the 20K NET bills I have every month.

At the moment i'm slowly going backwards as I can't cover that amount in bills every month. i've sold my house and signed offer to purchase on a place closer to work that's almost 3 times the price and had to buy it with a friend.

So if you think you know what's hard, yea things could be worse they can always get worse but my life isn't exactly roses at the moment. I attacked ACE's double standards I never attacked his life, problems, family, fiancé etc. that would just be cruel.
docmoo
just a note, if something was stopped on another site, in this case SS, it does not mean that it can simply be moved across here and carry on from where it left off. if it was closed/ended/deleted, there must've been a reason.

same as when you get busted by the police for selling dope, doesnt mean you can just change the area you deal in and carry on.

v9 is not a halfway house for rants between disgruntled members and admins on other forums. this will only start up the shit that happened a while back between ss and v9.

if you have the need to say something to someone in the nature that these posts have followed. pm them. go ahead and use our pm system for that. but please dont start a public flaming session.

it's funny how people who have not supported v9 have decided to come here to post when theres something flaring, you know had you just ignored it, it would have died down. this is not saying don't defend yourself, this is saying that comments from the peanut gallery are not always needed.

i know this is fight club and blah blah blah, but there is a line of common decency that needs to be realised.
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