Gay Marriages?, Time for another controversial issue! Options

[Ravilj]

In light of the Sex on the 1st Date thread and some searching the board regarding this ( http://www.net-forums.net/forums/Homosexua...iage-t5943.html ) I thought it may be interesting to start this poll, since I am quite intrigued.

Just to get some thinking going...




This post has been edited by Ravilj: May 28 2005, 02:57 PM

[Mithras]

I personally don't have anything against "gay" marriages. If two people love each so much that they want to spend their lives together, let them. None of us here are truly in a position to judge them by their lifestyle or sexual orientation.

[Loadhigh]

Oh come on i cant believe people vote yes on this one.

I think they just want to start an argument or they are butt fuckers themselves.

[Mithras]

I think they just want to start an argument or they are butt fuckers themselves.

Like I said, we are in absolutely no position to judge whether or not same-sex marriages are right or wrong. My philosophy on this matter is that something is not a problem, unless you make it one. There have been "gays" around for a long time, and by the looks of things they aren't going anywhere. So we can basically accept these people and get a long with them, like we do with any other person.

As for the people who are going to make this a religious thing remember this: no sin is greater than another.

[MjrMua]

Re Gay marrage: Hell Yes! Anything else is bigotry and descrimination. I'm suprized it has taken this long to be legalized.

Like I said, we are in absolutely no position to judge whether or not same-sex marriages are right or wrong.

Why not? I think we all understand the basic idea.

[bullfrog]

Loadhigh, there is no point in insulting people, this is a friendly debate and people are allowed to have their own opinions. Just shows what type of person u r making a comment like that.

I don't have anything against it as they were born that way and din't have much of a choice to wether theyre gay or not. There is no use seperating them from the rest of society.

[Loadhigh]

Just shows what type of person u r making a comment like that.

Yes dude, i am a person who doesn't like faggots. Everybody listen up: " I Dont Like Homosexuals" .

As for the people who are going to make this a religious thing remember this: no sin is greater than another.

I wouldn't even try and bring up the issue of religion because some people dont like it, but i will say one thing each and every person wether they like it or not depends on religion each and every day of theyr'e life. If there was never any religion our society would collapse as it would be okay to steal, kill, murder, rape yada yada.

It is also very easy to say there is nothing wrong with homosexuality if you never question the media or hollywood. The homosexuals work for the media and they brainwash you into thinking theres nothing wrong with it. How? It's simple they put funny gay people into TV shows, and when you start to laugh, you start to lower your defences until one day you think to yourself "ah, those gays are alright by me."

Call me crazy, say i am intolerant, tell people i am a homophobe, I dont care. In my heart and my mind I know it's wrong. I am not going out into the streets to stone them but what kind of example are you setting for future generations. If everyone in society started marrying people of the same sex the world would have no future. If gay marriage is allowed it will just be one more thing to contribute to the moral breakdown of society. No one is born homosexual, they just get confused, growing up. Legalizing gay marriage will only confuse our children more.

If you like gay people good for you, but one day it will turn on you. Okay one day the fact that i dont like faggots will turn on me too, maybe but i will feel no remorse

This post has been edited by Loadhigh: May 28 2005, 04:44 PM

[bullfrog]

I have no prob with u not liking gays, its your choice, just don't call the people who don't mind it being leagal, butt fukers or asume they are themselves gay, just because they have they don't have a problem with it. That's what I mean by what kind of person you are. A person who doesn't like something and think anyone else with a different opinion is an idiot and should not be allowed to have his own opinion!

[MjrMua]

Faggots, buttfuckers!? It's words like this that go to show that any ban on gay marriges would be based on malicious intent rather than some moral highground.

I wouldn't even try and bring up the issue of religion because some people dont like it

Good, this is an issue for the goverment, and therefor affects people of all religions, so religion *cannot* be an used as a motivating factor without descriminating against people of a different religion.

every person wether they like it or not depends on religion each and every day of theyr'e life. If there was never any religion our society would collapse as it would be okay to steal, kill, murder, rape yada yada.

Do you only refrain from killing raping yadda yadda because piss scared of some supernatural father figure!? What sort of person does that make you?

Baseing ones moral code on some anchient mythology is a really stupid idea, for example in the (traditional) jewish/christian/muslim religions, it is perfectly moral to kill someone of a different religion (though shalt no kill only commandment number 3 remember) What king of morrality is that!? Notice all the pain and suffering it has lead to (iraq, palestine,the ruwandan genocide, WW2, the crusades, the spanish inquesition, etc. etc. etc.)

I society certainly wouldn't collapse without religion, i think we may ever been allot better off if it wasn't an issue. Why? Because religion to me always seems to be a breeding ground for bigots fanatics and sheep.

The homosexuals work for the media and they brainwash you into thinking theres nothing wrong with it. How? It's simple they put funny gay people into TV shows

They also put gay people into the world, and then you meet them and you reilize that they arn't nearly as evil as everyone makes out. Oh My god it must be a conspiracy!
I'll admit that there is some brainwashing going on, how else could you have such strong negative views agains a groups of people who you have probably never associated with. But I suspect it is religion institutions and a vocal minority of homophobes who are to blame rather than "the media".

Call me crazy, say i am intolerant, tell people i am a homophobe,  I dont care. In my heart and my mind I know it's wrong. I am not going out into the streets to stone them

Your a crazy intolerent homophobe!
Denying them the right to marrage is just one or two steps short of stoning them.

but what kind of example are you setting for future generations. If everyone in society started marrying people of the same sex the world would have no future. If gay marriage is allowed it will just be one more thing to contribute to the moral breakdown of society. No one is born homosexual, they just get confused, growing up. Legalizing gay marriage will only confuse our children more.

So allowing gay marriges is going to turn every one into homosexuals? if that is true, why isn't every one a hetrosexual (after many hundreds of years of only hetrosexual marriges being allowed).
Notice your immediate assumption that homosexuality is evil and amorral! Stop taking your morality from a religious textbook and start thinking for yourself!

If you like gay people good for you, but one day it will turn on you. Okay one day the fact that i dont like faggots will turn on me too, maybe but i will feel no remorse

You will feel no remorse for you bigtry, prejudice and hatred? Dude! listen to what you are saying!
Respecting the rights of gay people will turn on me? How? Please provide a plausable example.

Heres an interesting excersize: go re-read your post but replace all the "faggots" and "butfuckers" with "niggers".

[Jow]

this is a friendly debate and people are allowed to have their own opinions.

wake up, this is the fight club.

what i dont understand is who is the mommy and who is the daddy in a gay marriage, and how do they go about having children? do they have seperate bachelor parties? who is the bride and who is the groom at the wedding ceremony? so many questions....
gay marriage just sounds too complicated.

This post has been edited by Jow: May 29 2005, 12:02 AM

[nemesis]

This is fight club, FIGHT! Just dont let it get too out of hand

As for gay marriages, they were born like that, I find it quite acceptable, so long as they dont adopt children as it puts the child in a bad position

[bullfrog]

Most gay couples who want children would probably adopt a child. That in my opinion is very unfair to a child. To put a child through all the horror of always being teased and seperated from the rest of the children because his fathers are gay. If you've been to a school lately you would probably know that people who are seen as gay and this will also include people with gay parents will never or very seldomly have any friends. Just imagine the pain a child has to go through if this were the case. Gay couples can't have children themselves and should not be allowed to have children either.

[JuCa]

Most gay couples who want children would probably adopt a child. That in my opinion is very unfair to a child. To put a child through all the horror of always being teased and seperated from the rest of the children because his fathers are gay. If you've been to a school lately you would probably know that people who are seen as gay and this will also include people with gay parents will never or very seldomly have any friends. Just imagine the pain a child has to go through if this were the case. Gay couples can't have children themselves and should not be allowed to have children either.

This is just plain stupid. Surely every kid can get mocked in school no matter if there parents are gay or not. The only reason why these kids get mocked more is because of our society which seems to think that 'gays' are evil and should all instantly die of AIDS or something. I have nothing against gays or lesbians (and no not for my personal pleasures). My auntie is lesbian for 6 - 7 years now. In the beginning it is just adapting to it but she is happy, her gf is happy and they have three kids (Out of marriages before). Are the kids unhappy? Nope they are not, please note though that this is in Europe. Maybe it is good to see that they make marriage between the same sex legal (Did they actually in SA?) so the whole taboo around it can go away. They are also just people and they are perfectly normal, just give them a chance to get to know them. The gay people I know are absolutly funny (and not because they act like girls), intelligent, sharp, etc etc.

The adoption thing is weird yes but these couples can give just the same loving as a regular mommy and daddy, maybe even more so. Thank god for people like these who give kids a chance to roll into the 'normal' society instead of spending their life in a institution hoping for someone to come by to give them a normal life again.

The only reason why it is 'weird' is because 'society' says so...grow up people!

[capn]

marriage is a religious thing. what do gay people get out of being married? i dont understand the point.

[JuCa]

marriage is a religious thing. what do gay people get out of being married? i dont understand the point.

Probably the whole commitment thing around marriage. Personally I think marriage overrated anyway but it has to do with being the same as everyone. Showing that two guys or two girls can also do the same things as heterosexual couples. Also showing the world ur commitment I guess. Marriage is more of general thing people have accepted as normal anyway. Who really marries for god or any religion?

[Jow]

what do gay people get out of being married?

they want to get married so that they can get the same social benefits and rights as married couples do. and have the right to claim life insurance if a 'spouse' (or whatever gay couples call each other) dies. thats why all they want to get is a civil marriage.

[bullfrog]

Juca, I have nothing against it personally, I just think it would be unfair towards children to be singled out like that. I know how it feels to be the odd one out. But I suppose if more gay couples get children, it would become a normal thing and the problem should sort itself out.

[Ziggy]

There really needs to be a, 'Dont care' option, cos if a gay couple wants to complicate and ruin their relationship by legally binding themselves to one another with reams and reams of red tape... welll thats no business of mine and I couldn't care less if it was.

[Gellan]

There really needs to be a, 'Dont care' option, cos if a gay couple wants to complicate and ruin their relationship by legally binding themselves to one another with reams and reams of red tape... welll thats no business of mine and I couldn't care less if it was.

Good one.

Personally I do not like it. This forum is the proof of the world's moral decay and it will only get worse.

I have no problem with homosexual people themselves, but to say more will probably sound bad.

Let me just say this: Two dongs don't make a right. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

[Ravilj]

This forum is the proof of the world's moral decay and it will only get worse.

huh? explain...