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Mar 10 2004, 03:38 AM
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![]() Dont fear the Penguins! Group: Elite Posts: 943 Joined: 3-November 03 From: South Africa, Johannesburg Member No.: 2,166 Sex: Male |
Was eating lunch while watching amanda lewis show, they were discussing whether or not gay couples should b allowed to adopted/raise children. So lets hear ur views... |
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Mar 10 2004, 03:44 AM
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![]() Im all in Group: V9 Mod Posts: 3,118 Joined: 22-April 02 From: St. Louis MO Member No.: 68 Sex: Male |
No, def not. I can tolerate gay relationships, but no kid growing up in a family like that will have an objective up bringing.
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Mar 10 2004, 03:51 AM
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![]() Senior Member Group: Senior Posts: 448 Joined: 25-April 03 From: JHB Member No.: 1,093 Sex: Male |
I agree with hunter, I think once you have reached a certain level of maturity then you should have the oppurtunity to form your own ideas and opinions, but if a kid grows up with homosexual parents then he has no chance of ever having an upbrining that would allow them to make their own decisions as it would seem normal due to the constant expodure to homosexuality.
I know all of the homosexual people will disagree as they believe what they are does not go against nature but i bring you back to pure biology. The | was made to go in the o, plain and simple! Edit: don't corrupt my statement by saying men have an o as well! This post has been edited by Zorg: Mar 10 2004, 04:09 AM -------------------- |
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Mar 10 2004, 03:58 AM
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Gays are gonna question you on which 0 you mean, Zorg. You shoulda said (|) instead.
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Mar 10 2004, 04:09 AM
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QUOTE(Zorg @ Mar 10 2004, 12:51 PM) The | was made to go in the o, plain and simple! ? The thing that bugs me is that homosexuality is frowned upon by society (in general), raising kids with the knowledge that they do not have to adhere to a certain set of morals can be very dangerous. Not to mention the way they will have to go through school. This is my daddy.....and this is my daddy. Can you imagine the emotional scars these kids can get from contant taunting, etc? Best case scenario is you will get a straight male with a sense of style, or a butch female that rapes men. (/joke) |
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Mar 10 2004, 04:19 AM
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![]() Prodigal Son Group: Elite Posts: 1,819 Joined: 31-May 02 From: South Africa Member No.: 290 Sex: Male |
im all for gay rights, and i feel they should be able to marry etc whatever they want, as said in other thread.
Whether being gay is a choice or not, the point is its something they deal with personally. Your kids aren't neccesaarily gay and being gay in today's world means not a normal upbringing. In the same way that drugabusers and alcoholics should not be allowed to adopt, i dont think gays should be allowed to. It's not in the child's best interests. -------------------- Bi-la Kaifa
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Mar 10 2004, 07:19 AM
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![]() gaming addict Group: Elite Posts: 664 Joined: 5-November 02 From: Cape Town Member No.: 698 Sex: Male |
I completely disagree with this. As Valheru said
QUOTE This is my daddy.....and this is my daddy. Can you imagine the emotional scars these kids can get from contant taunting, etc? Its just wrong and the kid wont be brought up in a natural environment. No no no. -------------------- System : AMD64 3200+ 939 / Gigabyte ATI Radeon X800XT Platinum /
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Mar 10 2004, 07:30 AM
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Society is messed up enough.
If they were meant to raise kids then they would have been given the ability to produce kids. -------------------- |
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Mar 10 2004, 08:48 PM
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![]() Has had his fucking fill Group: Elite Posts: 2,710 Joined: 20-April 02 Member No.: 19 Sex: Male |
why couldn't this be covered in the Homosexuality thread?
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Mar 10 2004, 09:46 PM
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![]() Im all in Group: V9 Mod Posts: 3,118 Joined: 22-April 02 From: St. Louis MO Member No.: 68 Sex: Male |
He said in the beginning that it is a completely seperate topic (in the homosexuality thread).
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Mar 11 2004, 11:38 AM
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I wouldnt think there is anything wrong with it, but if i were the kid, damn it must suck :/
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Mar 11 2004, 03:27 PM
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![]() From the land of Rain & Guinness- Ireland Group: Senior Posts: 10 Joined: 28-September 03 From: Co. Kerry, Ireland Member No.: 1,854 |
It's sick- if gays wanna be who they are thats fine but dont drag kids into it. Male's need a mother for affection etc- imagine a kid goin to 'sugar daddy' for affection
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Mar 11 2004, 11:54 PM
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I dont see the why a gay couple cant raise a child
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Mar 12 2004, 06:55 AM
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![]() *brak blaf* Group: Senior Posts: 199 Joined: 8-August 02 From: Cape Town Member No.: 520 |
QUOTE(Zorg @ Mar 10 2004, 12:51 PM) I agree with hunter, I think once you have reached a certain level of maturity then you should have the oppurtunity to form your own ideas and opinions, but if a kid grows up with homosexual parents then he has no chance of ever having an upbrining that would allow them to make their own decisions as it would seem normal due to the constant expodure to homosexuality. Do kids growing up with heterosexual parents have a completely biased view against homsexuals? Do they have the ability to make decisions regarding homosexuality in the same way that a child with homosexual parents has to make regarding heterosexuals? I think your comment is severly biased against homosexuals. You basically say that a child with homosexual parents is brainswashed into thinking homosexuality is normal, while a child with heterosexual parents is not? I don't think so. Personally, I think that if the homosexual couple can provide the same amount of love and care for the child then they should be allowed to have/keep him/her. Society is preaching open-mindedness more and more today and I don't think a child with homo- parents will be subject to too much ridicule. -------------------- When you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing.
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Mar 13 2004, 06:29 AM
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![]() Genius/Spammer Group: Elite Posts: 2,689 Joined: 6-May 03 From: Pretoria Member No.: 1,136 Sex: Male |
QUOTE(Greyhound @ Mar 12 2004, 03:55 PM) I think that if the homosexual couple can provide the same amount of love and care for the child then they should be allowed to have/keep him/her. Society is preaching open-mindedness more and more today and I don't think a child with homo- parents will be subject to too much ridicule. I totally agree ith you. I have had this discussion on many forums before and I never used agree with homosexuals raising children, for much of the reasons given here. What changed my mind was the oppinion of a woman that was an orphan and had spent her childhood life shuffling between shitty hetero-households and orphanages. If the homo couple can provide a loving and stable environment in which to raise the child, then there should be no reason why they should not have the opportunity of raising a child. END! |
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Mar 13 2004, 06:47 AM
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![]() gaming addict Group: Elite Posts: 664 Joined: 5-November 02 From: Cape Town Member No.: 698 Sex: Male |
QUOTE(Greyhound @ Mar 12 2004, 03:55 PM) You basically say that a child with homosexual parents is brainswashed into thinking homosexuality is normal, while a child with heterosexual parents is not? I don't think so. Yes, but that will differ between homosexual parents. I still dont think its right. |
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Mar 13 2004, 12:33 PM
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Regular Member Group: Senior Posts: 40 Joined: 22-February 03 From: boksburg Member No.: 895 |
I guess if you look at it form the viewpoint of an orphan, it changes it a bit. I do not think that they will not get laughed at for having gay parents, there is just no way that the child wont be laughed at by some people. But again, I guess if you look at it as a orphan, you probably would rather get laughed at and have loving parents and a home, than having to live you life wiht no parents at all. I dunno
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Mar 15 2004, 02:40 AM
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![]() SB Regular Group: Senior Posts: 74 Joined: 7-March 03 From: Cape Town Member No.: 923 Sex: Male |
I agree with the orphan sentiment: Furthermore, the question should be: What provides more security and 'fullfillment' for a child: By fullfillment, I mean the chance for said child to recieve a good education, sound medical care, a solid ethical foundation etc. If I may digress slightly, one of my best friends is a girl of 21 years who was brought up from birth by two lesbians: If anyone tries to argue with me over whether she is balanced in terms of love, sexual choice etc then they will fight a losing battle. My point here is not to set a standard, but rather to say that the formulae can work, and it has (at least in her case) worked. The deeper issues for parenthood should not be whether they are hetero or homo, but rather are they:
1. Financially able to comfortably support both themselves and their child. 2. That their relationship is stable and the child is wanted, not needed 3. Are each of the parents psychologically/ physically secure enough for the responsibility etc etc. I especially affirm the need for parents, whether homo/hetero for the worlds orphans. With the AIDS in parents death rate rising, itz gonna get real grim real soon. Just my two cents worth. -------------------- Arriving reprocessed from inexistance at phase-transition into Hell or the future, you slide an interlock-pin into its sub-cortical socket, shifting to the other side of the screen (coma zoned infotech undeath). Pandemonium scrolls out in silence. Decayed pixel-dust drifts into grey dunes.
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Mar 16 2004, 02:20 PM
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Of course gay couples should be allowed to raise kids. I know a guy who studies with me who has two moms. He is a perfectly normal integrated individual without any more childhood scars than most of us.
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Apr 6 2004, 03:06 PM
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I do not have any reservations or problems with gay couples, but I'm slightly unsure of where I stand when it comes to parenting. I agree with the fact that there are many couples or people who have children, who are probably less fit to be taking care of a child than a gay couple, and if they are allowed to parent children, with all their hang-ups, then why should gay couples not be? But then I also understand that allowing gay couples to parent a child, knowingly puts a serious amount of prejudice and confusion into the child's life. Is it not society's duty to prevent this from happening? Someone enlighten me. -------------------- Its not the Size of the post, its how you use it...
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