Help
Members
 Can The Iraq War Be Won By Diplomacy?, Poll Of 30 April 07 |
Looking for something specific? Search the Vault9 network:
Custom Search
Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )
Welcome, guest. By registering you'll be able to experience the full Vault9 package. Join a community of almost 8 000 members (and over a quarter of a million posts) and enjoy many benefits.
  |
 Apr 30 2007, 05:35 AM
Post
#1
|
|
 Guildmaster Of The Alliance Of Khaos  Group: Senior Posts: 1,604 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Saar, Bahrain (NRI) Member No.: 7,914 Sex: Male  |
First of all i'm sorry that i was lax with the polls in recent time - i was a bit busy but now i am back with it! The Iraq War!! Yep the groans can be heard. People say that the war can not be won with conventional fighting techniques that the US coailtion is using. But will Diplomacy, the exact opposite of Violence work either! Get those opinions in guys!! |
 |
 
|
|
Apr 30 2007, 06:09 AM
Post
#2
|
|
 The Dark Elf  Group: Elite Posts: 527 Joined: 7-May 03 From: Johannesburg, South Africa (Proudly) Member No.: 1,140 Sex: Male |
I voted no.
-------------------- <null signature>
|
|
|
|
|
Apr 30 2007, 06:47 AM
Post
#3
|
|
 Lt. Of The Alliance Of Khaos Group: Senior Posts: 291 Joined: 18-January 07 From: Saar, Bahrain (NRI) Member No.: 8,060 Sex: Male |
No
War nor diplomacy is going ot stop the conflict The militia can't be helped. They should be left alone and they will soon find out that they can not run the country and when that happens they will cede power back to the people - then the UN can move in REASONING from the Cambodian history soon after the Vietnam Occupation -------------------- The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority.
The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking. --AA Milne |
|
|
|
|
May 2 2007, 01:36 AM
Post
#4
|
|
 Full Member Group: Senior Posts: 646 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Budaiya, Manama, Bahrain Member No.: 5,806 Sex: Male |
Nope. When words fail then aggression has to unfold.
-------------------- <Removed by popular demand> |
|
|
|
|
May 2 2007, 02:58 AM
Post
#5
|
|
 Uzumaki Naruto Group: Senior Posts: 1,444 Joined: 27-April 02 From: KZN, South Africa Member No.: 153 Sex: Male |
Diplomacy - I dont see it happenning.
The US causd a major fuck up when used fictitous WMD's as a pretense to go to war. As dodgy as Iraq was to live in under Sadamm at least there was some society, some law and some peace. Now, its just uber chaos. The US has opened up centuries old rivalries and conflicts along tribal and sectarian lines. Shiites killing Sunni's and vice versa. Its a civil war! Its not going to stop any time soon and I doubt diplomacy is going to do anything. It rarely does in the middle east! -------------------- // Visit cyberst0rm's blog - You know you want to! //
|
|
|
|
|
May 2 2007, 03:44 AM
Post
#6
|
|
 The old one Group: Senior Posts: 160 Joined: 31-August 06 From: You dont want to know.... Member No.: 5,868 Sex: Male |
Diplomacy is the art of getting what YOU want and making others think they will bennifit from it.
-------------------- If you like me less just because i like Shania Twain's music more than Linkin Park's, you can just go stuff yourselffff
|
|
|
|
|
May 2 2007, 10:46 AM
Post
#7
|
|
|
Guildmaster Of The Alliance Of Khaos Group: Senior Posts: 1,604 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Saar, Bahrain (NRI) Member No.: 7,914 Sex: Male |
I am a Ghandi-ist and i follow Pacifism like a second religion
QUOTE Diplomacy is the art of getting what YOU want and making others think they will bennifit from it. I would beg ot idffer on that point Dr. Death. Diplomacy is about reaching a peaceful concluysion to a dispute. I would think that Diplomacy should be triued and only after that fails i would authorize force.However in the case of Iraq i would make a huge exception - it is obvious that all thgese bastards think about is violence and killing there own people. Violence will not work, but neither is diplomacy QUOTE As dodgy as Iraq was to live in under Sadamm at least there was some society, some law and some peace. Now, its just uber chaos. The US has opened up centuries old rivalries and conflicts along tribal and sectarian lines. Shiites killing Sunni's and vice versa. Its a civil war! Iraq was bad under Saddam, but i doubt that even Hell would be worse that the state that the country is curretnly in |
|
|
|
|
May 2 2007, 11:35 AM
Post
#8
|
|
 Im all in  Group: V9 Mod Posts: 3,118 Joined: 22-April 02 From: St. Louis MO Member No.: 68 Sex: Male |
Shiites killing Sunni's has been going on for centuries, thousands were murdered under Saddams rule, you just didnt hear about it in the press.
Is the place better off now? Yes Is it safe? No Will it ever be a peaceful country? No Tribal/secterian violence will always be around, no democracy or dictatorship will stop that. People hate people and always will, simple. Lets say on average 100 people die a day, consider that what 50 die in SA and we are "at peace" What is happening in iraq is nothing compared to what goes on in other areas of Africa (darfur anyone?) The only reason its such a hot topic is because the US and its allies are involved, if they were not there the same violence would be going on, we just wouldnt hear about it. --------------------  |
|
|
|
|
May 2 2007, 12:55 PM
Post
#9
|
|
 Playing Polo Group: Elite Posts: 2,151 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Sunninghill, South Africa Member No.: 1,575 Sex: Male |
It's too late for a diplomatic end to the war.
-------------------- Current Baby:
2005 - VW Polo Playa 1.4i - Black Ex Babies: 1993 - VW MK 1 2.0 - Kingfisher Blue (Sold) 1998 - VW Polo Classic 1.6i - White (Sold) 1990 - VW MK1 1.6 Carb - Championship Red (Sold) 1989 - VW MK1 1.6 Carb - Kingfisher Blue (Sold) 1999 - BMW 523 - Dolphin Grey(Sold) 1992 - Honda 1.6i DOHC - Gun Metal (Sold) 1993 - Nissan Sentra 1.3 Carb - Cream (Sold) |
|
|
|
|
May 3 2007, 05:48 AM
Post
#10
|
|
 Scientology is going to be the real-life Brotherhood of Nod, wit Group: Elite Posts: 2,161 Joined: 13-August 04 From: Randburg - Jhb Member No.: 3,528 Sex: Male |
There are too many people who just wont compromise. That means there will be no diplomatic solution.
It is actually pretty hopeless. Just as here in SA, the one tribe oppressed the other tribe for a very long time. The difference is that when the ruling tribe in Iraq was removed from power, they turned to violence and started to commit acts of terrorism. |
|
|
|
|
May 4 2007, 02:16 AM
Post
#11
|
|
|
Uzumaki Naruto Group: Senior Posts: 1,444 Joined: 27-April 02 From: KZN, South Africa Member No.: 153 Sex: Male |
There is a growing posibility that Iraq will be split into perhaps 3 regions for Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds.
|
|
|
|
|
May 4 2007, 05:46 AM
Post
#12
|
|
|
Im all in Group: V9 Mod Posts: 3,118 Joined: 22-April 02 From: St. Louis MO Member No.: 68 Sex: Male |
Seperating groups has worked soooo well in the past hasn't it...
Germany... Jerusalem... |
|
|
|
|
Nov 7 2007, 05:17 AM
Post
#13
|
|
|
Regular Member  Group: Regular Posts: 20 Joined: 28-August 07 Member No.: 10,351 Sex: Male |
Not at all.
|
|
|
|
|
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 18th March 2010 - 10:06 PM |